One does not negotiate with terrorists and criminals.

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*** Really? Maybe so. But WHO determines who should be given that label of 'terrorist' or 'criminal'? Can another terrorist or criminal apply it on somebody else ? Is it an ABSOLUTE standard, or is it something that varies, depending on the convenience of those who apply that label?


Take for example the case of Fatah. For decades Israel, the USA etc have called them TERRORISTS and treated them as such, killing them, imprisoning them. But right now both Israel and the US are embracing Fatah as the good folks. What gives? Convenience? A good ploy to cement the rift between Fatah and Hamas, both politically as well as geographically?

Ronald Reagan declared the former Soviet Union the Evil Empire. But as as soon as the Communist regime fell, Russia became a friend. George Bush went to meet Putin, the former spook, looked into his eyes and saw his heart and declared it was in the right place.

Mandela was declared a terrorist both by South Africa as well as by Dick Cheney and his cronies, was imprisoned for decades. But now he is considered a great statesman.

Menachem Begin, the past Israeli PM, was declared a TERRORIST by the British. Later he was re-labeled a freedom- fighter and was accorded the veneration of a head of state.

So, one needs to look at the source from where these labels come and judge them accordingly.

Should we accept Jyoti Sharma's or Ram Sarangapani's labels as the ultimate truths?

Take a wild guess.



>I think you fail to understand what serious repercussion such incidents can invite to Assamese people living in other Hindi speaking states of India. Imagine an Assamese student/family being assaulted, killed in Gaziabad. Who do you think will come to protect them?



*** First of all, let us assume for a moment that the news that you posted is accurate. We will get to that later. EVEN if it is true that PC Ram was killed by ULFA or whoever, does that make ALL Assamese GUILTY of the crime? Is that how Indian Civilization works? And IF that is the SOURCE of applying such labels to ULFA or whoever, what is the VALUE of such labels?

Furthermore, if ALL Assamese are to be considered criminals by all these fine Indians, WHY only the Hindi speaking ones? Why not Tamils, Telegus, Kannadas, Bengalis, Malayalis? Don't they have empathy for the Hindi speaking victims?

Most of all, if India is a civilized nation with a rule of laws, why should the Assamese living in Hindi speaking states be afraid? Will you be afraid in Autralia, because Indian Hindu terrorists burnt the Aurstralian missionary , his wife and children alive? Can't the Assamese in Hindi speaking states depend upon equal protection of the great Indian democracy?

Or is that great Indian democracy is a myth? That it is really ruled by terrorists of various kinds, as is amply demonstrated by recent events all across India?



Well now that Army operations will be on a full scale let's see how long it takes PCG to come out of >hibernation. Or has the PCG been dismissed and another one formed by Mamoni?

*** That is certainly NEWS. I had no idea that the army has not been operating in 'full scale'. What triggers full-scale operations rumored killing of high Indian officials only?

Also I had no idea that the PCG or Mamoni had been hiding. Even if they were, if the army goes on a rampage killing innocents, should they remain silent as a penance for PC Ram's rumored killing? Is this some kind of a higher civilizational rung that only Indians have reached , and if the PCG is not there yet, they can be fair objects of ridicule and taunts from such intellectual titans as Jyoti Sharma?


*** Finally the veracity of PC Ram's death from ULFA: Is this a Telegraph scoop or is it a verified fact? Why I ask is that this particular rag has a track record of publishing rumors as facts. I will await further info. on it before *I* make my judgement.








At 11:12 AM +0800 7/1/07, Jyotirmoy Sharma wrote:
**** Why don't you tell us? Educate us?

One does not negotiate with terrorists and criminals.

I think you fail to understand what serious repercussion such incidents can invite to Assamese people living in other Hindi speaking states of India. Imagine an Assamese student/family being assaulted, killed in Gaziabad. Who do you think will come to protect them?

Well now that Army operations will be on a full scale let's see how long it takes PCG to come out of hibernation. Or has the PCG been dismissed and another one formed by Mamoni?

JS

On 01/07/2007, at 10:42 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote:

Does the govt still need to talk with such groups? If yes, then about what? I don't see Mr Bush sitting down with the Al-Qaeda leaders to discuss Iraq or Mr Putin discussing Russia's future with Cechen rebels. Why should India/Assam be any different?




**** Why don't you tell us? Educate us?










At 9:25 AM +0800 7/1/07, Jyotirmoy Sharma wrote:
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070701/asp/frontpage/story_7999536.asp

This incident and several others like these make me ashamed to say that I am an Assamese. The ULFA and their cahoots have done irreparable damage to Assam and Assamese. How does the ULFA sympathizers spin this story now? Did they gain anything out of this? Yes - scared the hell out of potential domestic and foreign investors, tourists. Our boys and their intellectual colleagues have done their very best to make Assam a Taliban country.

Does the govt still need to talk with such groups? If yes, then about what? I don't see Mr Bush sitting down with the Al-Qaeda leaders to discuss Iraq or Mr Putin discussing Russia's future with Cechen rebels. Why should India/Assam be any different?

JS

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