Someone, who does not understand any Hindi, from another e-mail list, asked for an explanation of the following post:

"Hi All

You logon ki silence for this long is deafening and dar-o-fying me.

To break the ice, here is something to take note of:

HOW BIHAR WAS WON????????????

Jab tak rahega Samosa me ALOOOOOOoooo......
Tab tak rahega Bihhaar me LALLOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo.


                                          BY LALOO.


From your Northern Bhai  "


Since no one came up with a response, yours truly took to the stand, with the following:

**************************************************************************************************************

Awright  ---- !

Since those who know Hindi well won't come to your aid, allow me, the pidgin-Hindi speaker , to take a stab . If I mess it all up, it will be the fault of the those who are supposed know better than to let this happen :-).

Laloo Prasad Yadav, the clownish 'low-caste' ex-chief minister of the Indian Bihar state; corruption infested,perennially flood ravaged and supposed to be poverty ridden; widely known to be a master of nepotism, convicted of certain crimes and suspected of all kinds of corrupt practices; is a critical partner of the current Indian coalition government
        at Delhi .

He is the minister in charge of Indian Railways, a critical component of the Indian economy and of immense importance to the daily lives of most Indians, barring only the elite.

Very widely, and perhaps fondly to many, known just as Laloo, a rustic name common in the lowest strata of society of the region, is the object object of much ridicule and derision among the Indian upper-crust, the upper castes and the intelligentsia; not to speak of the neo-rightist Indians riding the wave of the an expanding economy or
        the fans of the great Indian democracy and  its promoters abroad.

Compound that with the two OO's in his name , widely associated in India with with 'gwlla' s( spheres or circles in Hindi) -- zeros -- the concept of which was developed by the ancient Indians -- and all forms of euphemisms of emptiness and negativism, to
        his already 'funny' name.

Mind you here, us 'desis', even grown up ones, also take a lot of delight in making fun of people with unusual names, not to mention those like Lalloo, that rhyme with 'aloo' ( potato -- a spherical object representing zero and a lowly vegetable, staple of the poor).

        But  Laloo  remains a widely popular  politician to the vast
numbers of the unwashed- the poorly educated, illiterate, low-caste poor and disenfranchised of Bihar, left out of the "shining India's" leap into modernity and prosperity.

And he, I heard, has turned Indian Railways from a money loser to a money-maker in a few short years, has introduced people friendly improvements to the railways, not to speak of bringing new respectability to the ancient, disposable, earthen cup used by lowly rail travelers to drink their tea from by promoting it as an earth friendly measure, bringing attention from such temples of higher learning as the Indian Institutes of Management
        and the Harvard MBA School


Thus the limerick ( sorta, kinda) -----

        Jab tak rahega Samosa me ALOOOOOOoooo......

As long as there is 'aloo' ( potato) in a 'samosa' ( implying forever- for who can imagine
        one without potato?))


        Tab tak rahega Bihhaar me LALLOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo.

        There will remain a Laloo in Bihar  ( meaning of course corrupt, poor,
        uneducated and backward )


                                         ( BY LALOO.)


----- is an expression of desi-intelligentsia's angst, oblivious of the reasons how, a clown
        without a degree from an institution with any pedigree, rules !

Never mind the facts that full forty percent of Indian MPs are either accused or convicted of various criminal acts, that corruption is a way of life that long ago lost the deterrence of shame even amongst the most highly educated or the devout of society; that north, central, south and west Indian elections are largely fought over CASTE lines where ISSUES do not feature--only pandering do. While elsewhere even though the abomination of caste does not rule, pandering and SYMBOLS do.

Also never mind the fact that the law-enforcement and adjudication system are totally dysfunctional thru-out the length and breadth of the country; cannot hold anyone in power accountable, with even those accused of the most heinous of corrupt practices routinely laugh all the way to the bank, with the courts backlogged by over thirty years now.

        So on and so forth.

Thus the popularity of the limerick about Laloo, with a touch of literary levity; while lightly amusing, is really yet another tragic expression of their discombobulation over their own frustrations and sense of failure, conveniently dumped over the hapless masses of Bihar.


The above ought to teach everyone not to delegate, even if only by default, anything to be clarified , by yours truly.


Contrarily yours, as always :-).

cm











At 5:14 PM -0700 7/13/07, carol anand wrote:
Sounds like you are all having fun but I am feeling very left out. KK, I know you are good at translating for me, so how about it? I don't like when i go to get a manicure how the staff speaks Korean and I feel like they are all talking about me and my ugly nails.
So hope you aren't saying anything bad about me, k?

Just keep having fun. I'll laugh anyway!

Cheers,
Carol

On Jul 13, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Ravi Anand wrote:

Partner, more than "lipatna" I wanted to say "chipatna" but then we are in mixed company-had to make do with "nipatna"
and yes, it is indeed kaatna or chipkana....all the way
but its pretty neat when you can also add the Avinash-i  'bulandi' here:
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Subject: RE: A must watch video of Indian idol

Partner, was that "Rabri se nipatna" or "Rabri se lipatna"? Must say it sounds a lot more interesting the latter way?

So, how did you manage to insert a devnagri script piece in the middle of your email? That's some clever job of cut and paste?


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Subject: RE: A must watch video of Indian idol

As Avinash would rightly say.....

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Ab kuchh aur baat karo mere bhaiyon!




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Subject: Re: A must watch video of Indian idol

Astrooger's advice to Laloo: Patna se nahin hatna!

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Sent: Thu Jul 12 22:58:28 2007
Subject: RE: A must watch video of Indian idol

Hi All

You logon ki silence for this long is deafening and dar-o-fying me.

To break the ice, here is something to take note of:

HOW BIHAR WAS WON????????????

Jab tak rahega Samosa me ALOOOOOOoooo......
Tab tak rahega Bihhaar me LALLOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo.


                                          BY LALOO.


From your Northern Bhai










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        Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:01:30 -0400
        Subject: Re: A must watch video of Indian idol
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        Malini,
Great Video!!!they did great but I still think original movie was better...
        Thanks
        Avinash



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        Conversation: A must watch video of Indian idol
        Subject: A must watch video of Indian idol

        Greetings to fellow cruisers!

The two gusy and a gal has done an excellent job of mimicing Mehmood & Kishor Kumar "ek chatur naar" from film Padosan. Sepcially the Bengali contestant doing South Indian accent is too much.

        It's really funny.


<http://indianidol.sify.com/player/indianidol_popup.php?f=indianidol_4_ep19_22june07-128k.wmv&site=indianidol>http://indianidol.sify.com/player/indianidol_popup.php?f=indianidol_4_ep19_22june07-128k.wmv&site=indianidol <<http://indianidol.sify.com/player/indianidol_popup.php?f=indianidol_4_ep19_22june07-128k.wmv&site=indianidol>http://indianidol.sify.com/player/indianidol_popup.php?f=indianidol_4_ep19_22june07-128k.wmv&site=indianidol> <<http://indianidol.sify.com/player/indianidol_popup.php?f=indianidol_4_ep19_22june07-128k.wmv&site=indianidol>http://indianidol.sify.com/player/indianidol_popup.php?f=indianidol_4_ep19_22june07-128k.wmv&site=indianidol>

If you can't open this up, then just go to <http://indianidol.sify.com/>http://indianidol.sify.com/ web site. Go to top five or ten videos and
        I think it is headlined "ayyo rama yeh kya ho gaya".

One night, we can have our own singing and mimicry(of different accents) session during the cruise.Hopefully, we''ll be able to get the conference room on sailing day. If not we can all gether into one of our cabins.

I can copy Assameese English accent quite well. Ravi can do Panjaabi and Bong accent.

Vijay can sing to Jolly "Badkamma badkamma, mere hone walloh bachhe kee amma". Jolly can respond "muttu korri kawaadi harra". I don't know the meaning of "muttu korri". May be Biju can enlighten us.

        I am excited about the cruise and looking forward to it.

        Malini






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