<Can you produce any written evidence that India invented the Zero and when? It
is difficult. >
Say something Umesh!
Like
"Why invent-- be a good driver-and feel good-like we (some) are doing now."
OR
" We are judges in the English system of life-the Brahmin System of
life-Rather. We wait for the respective specialist to do their bit-and
eventually -- WE take the credit for THAT. Because WE are DESTINED -- because
of our destined SUPERIORITY "
Have a happy weekend-all- you are destined to it!
mm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fri, 10 Aug 2007
15:02:21 -0500Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian reality versus Western mythology
When I say FACTS AND FIGURES, I was talking not about our religious heroes, but
about Science and Mathametics.
Say for instance, what India did in case of Mathematics and when?
Can you produce any written evidence that India invented the Zero and when? It
is difficult.
I donot like to deal with mythical figures like Shiva, Krishna etc. I consider
these Indian gods to be purely mythical figures transformed from some original
tribal religious cults. In my opinion, Shiva was orginally a local god in the
Harappa civilization and Krishna was a Dravidian local tribal god. This much
history tells. Do you have any other evidence to counter that , not who
believes what?
Rajen da
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Indian reality versus Western mythology
Rajen-da,Good to get your response. Now about facts - would you not agree that
most Hindus hail Krishna as one of the Hindu heroes and believe that he lived
in India thousands of years back --- I wanted to put that on Wikipedia page of
Krishna - and they asked for facts -- what do you expect me to do? I believe
wiki is a good example of people over the globe trying to have "sameness" -
even here there is bias.Second, on Jesus's wiki page I added a comment that
many Indians believe that Jesus came to learn his skills in India (and I added
a BBC report on that with weblink) and that was deleted - saying this is no
research evidence -- for Indian news on Indian culture even an obscure
reference (with no weblink) in any newspaer article in remote India is
considered okay by its editors -- incidently for Jesus they have stopped anyone
from editing the page. Anyone is free to write anything about Krshna , Ram etc
-- thats free for all.whats that to do with facts? Thats plain bias.UmeshRajen
& Ajanta Barua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh:
What you are saying is right.
The West has a Eurocentric view of the world. They claim that the basic
foundation of the Western Civilization, especially on science, is mainly based
on Greek civilization. They even donot like to give proper credit to the Indian
and Chinese contribution in mathetics and other science. I would say, the West
is still in the Dark Age. However, they have a point. Indians basically donot
have any record of what they did. If you want to counter the present
Eurocentric view, the best (and only way) is to debate will SOLID facts and
figures and not with rhetoric.
If you have any specific issue, I would be glad to discus.
Rajenda
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: [Assam] Indian reality versus Western mythology
Some days back a student of Indian origin born and raised in US was surprised
to learn that India had a glorious history - he hardly believed me though. And
it did not surprise me since I have come to realize that every civilization
wants to promote itself as the best - Greek and Roman civilization are promoted
as ideals (closely followed by Egyptian one) -- Indian and Chinese ones are
lesser ones. Greek Toga costume parties are common features of Western univs
just like Indian kurta, dhoti are picking up in Indian college fashion
shows.However, the problem is that Western historians/scholars of non Western
spheres call themselves (and each other) as the world's foremost/only reliable
experts on their chosen area of expertise - namely hows and whys of other
civilization. Most believe (I believe) that those in non-western
world/developing world are too naive/unscientific/non-modern/non-rational to
understand and appreciate the distinction between good and bad; and right and
wrong.I believe a lay westerner is more tolerant of others' views than these
experts (whose reputation and even careers depend on promoting what they have
always held as true).I just created a wikipedia page called Hindu Reality
-speaking against this tendency (I'm sure someone will come along and remove my
arguments).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_reality - I just checked
--someone has deleted the page itself.Wiki seems to be about might is right -
Any comments?UmeshUmesh SharmaWashington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell]Ed.M. -
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