Hello BS:

I was quite amused by your outburst in your previous post.

While this one shows contrition for your abusive behavior and personal attacks on people you have never met or know nothing about and not even read the material in the context, demonstrates one thing loud and clear: That you render verdicts and opinions regardless of whether you know anything about the subject matter or not.

Personally I have no need for your apology. If I may speak for my elder brother Mukul Mahanta, he does not either.

But we will let that pass.

I would however like you to inviter you to participate in the discussions/debates we have had in this forum pursuant to the Esomonline inquisition of Rubi Bhuyan that many of you participated in. Why I say YOU, is that I also saw your name in the respondents.

With that in mind, allow me to ask you a few things about the 'points' you make here:



We are not living in 1979, a closed under development cold war ridden economy.

**** What does that have to do with what had happened to Assam and continues unabated? What had the cold war to do with it? Why did the economy remain closed and how is it open now? If it is open, what has poured in to change Assam's conditions?



Presently we are a state where everything is opening up.

**** Can you tell us a little more about it and show us how it has impacted:

The quality of Assam's people's lives? Has education improved, do people get better healthcare or even any healthcare, do all eat, have a halfway decent shelter to call home, are there roads and bridges to population centers, have flooding been dealt with, can someone start a small industrial venture and there will be electricity available for it, can people depend on and trust their public servants not to steal and get away with it, can they approach their civil servants seeking service and get it without getting the
        run-around? I can go on and on, but I hope you get the idea.





 The rationality of demand for independence becomes diluted over the time.


**** Will you enlighten us on what they were then, and how it is now that is different?


In that very sense, if those member of PCG still arrogant over the one word issue, many have >objection.

****BTW, I am not a PCG member, Mukul Mahanta is. Do you have any idea what the PCG stands for, their purpose? Why I ask is that your comment does not indicate that you do.

Talking about purpose, what was your purpose , your AIM , in that "hola gosot baagi kuthar mora" enterprise where you all ganged up on Rubi Bhuyan ? I asked that of Utpal too. Let us take a good look at that and see how you all fare in your humility or conceit and in substance or hot-air.


i told in several times, I always emphasizes smaller state principles.

**** And? Did they not listen to you? Pray, can you tell us why?


if every community in north east receive a state within their respective majority areas, in my opinion it >will definitely help to provide better economic development if economic issues control under a union.


**** Those must be words of great wisdom. And I am sure you arrived at the conclusion after much deliberation. So let us examine that in a little more detail so we , the ranks of the know-nothing, could digest them:

What is the meaning of "-----if economic issues control under a union." ? How exactly would
        that provide 'better economic development' ?

Recently a central minister commented that GOI's largesse amounts to nearly Rs. 10,000 per each man woman and child that inhabit Assam and the contiguous region, per year. What has that produced so far? Can you pint to something that you see that we don't? The same minister also lamented that, he thought it would be probably far more beneficial to just hand over the CASH to FAMILIES in need.

        Obviously you know differently.  Will you tell us why?


From the sounds of your pronouncements, you sound like an economics expert, in addition to your profession of 'journalism'. Can you explain how little states like those you propose would sustain themselves economically if they have little or no base to tax and generate incomes on their own to promote and support development activities?

        Can an independent Bodo state survive, without GoI  handouts?

And if that state has to continually beg from a remote master controlling the purse-strings for its survival , what are the chances of its prosperity and preservation of its ethnic identity?



We have to think many alternate principles. As my information while many meetings in NSA of GOI, >these PCG members not able to comprehend their arguments properly.


**** How about doing your public duty and explaining it to the idiots? This is about as good a forum as any to start putting your money where your mouth is. Shall we? I hope you won't run and go silent, like so many others have in the past, when challenged.


So I would like to request them to do proper home work before presently their demand to elsewhere.

**** It is the duty of the wise, the able and the informed to help educate the uninformed and the uneducated. We are counting on your expertise to educate us.




cm






I am extremely sorry that out of my frustration, I have written such an abusive language to these gentlemen after hearing their point of argument for demanding freedom from Indian state. My point is very simple. We are not living in 1979, a closed under development cold war ridden economy. Presently we are a state where everything is opening up. The rationality of demand for independence becomes diluted over the time. In fact it is diluted across the world where globalisation reducing the concept of border and nationalism. In that very sense, if those member of PCG still arrogant over the one word issue, many have objection. i told in several times, I always emphasizes smaller state principles. if every community in north east receive a state within their respective majority areas, in my opinion it will definitely help to provide better economic development if economic issues control under a union. We have to think many alternate principles. As my information while many meetings in NSA of GOI, these PCG members not able to comprehend their arguments properly. So I would like to request them to do proper home work before presently their demand to elsewhere.




muktikam phukan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Very aptly put forth. In fact, I think Er M Mahanta introduced low cost hollow concrete structure houses in assam after coming back from USA.Late Shri Parag Das's residence is made with that tech.

Regards

M. Phukan

Mridul Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought this net is a gentlemen's forum. During my stint with this 'Assamnet' for the last 7/8 years, hardly I have found the use of such languages. Those who are in the technical field, having some links with Assam, know Sri Mukul Mahanta is regarded in the technical faternity. I have known him personally for atleast 2/3 years. I have never seen a more practical Assamese Engineer like him. He is professionally a father figure in the engineering history of Assam. Political view points differ from person to person. Even if he is nobody, using such abusive language doesn't show one in good light.

Regards

Mridul Bhuyan

biswajeet saikia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yesterday, Utpal borpujari told me about these two figures( cda amd Mda!). In my wild dream i never thought ULFA appointed such a ruscal as PCG member to negotiate future freedom of Assam. after knowing their background, i am bit confused whether shoudl I further discuss over these topics. I decided why not I should invite them for a open meeting in any place in Delhi which is their desire with full security assurance to speak about their point of argument infromt of media, academician and other people. If they agree to come I will arrange everything. Atleast I want to hear fools desire before coming to conclusion.
Let see  and wait how these figures response!

Nayanjyoti Medhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hahahahahahahaha

On 10/10/07, SANDIP DUTTA <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok, got the meaning now.

So are you Assamese (I know you are writing Phukan but...)

Rgds,
sD


----- Original Message ----
From: muktikam phukan <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >

Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:31:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

Whats personal here -

An Assamese eats "Khar"  ---- So he is a kharkhowa
A Bengali eats "Xukan fish" ----   So he is a drie dfish khowa



SANDIP DUTTA <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I dont know you enough to get into personal attacks like you have done. If that was an attempt to make me mad, it was stupid to say the least.

But now its clear what culture YOU are coming from. Why not give up your plum PSU job and join the ranks of the shrill screaming mafia we have here?

Rgds,
SD


----- Original Message ----
From: muktikam phukan <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:45:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

Why do people talk to this person SD as "kharkhowa". He is a "Dried fish Khowa"

SANDIP DUTTA <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >>>And is it good or bad for  Kharkhowas  speaking  like that?

Does it matter whether its good or bad? Why should a new dialect be bad? And yes, it is the language of the young crowd spoken by many across India.

Rgds,
SD


----- Original Message ----
From: Chan Mahanta <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] reply to C Da who thinks i lost my voice.

I still don't get it though. Does it mean  'they say '?



BTW, what is 'munnabhai hindi', is it some kind of cool talk,
practised by the desi in-crowd ?

And is it good or bad for  Kharkhowas  speaking  like that? Does it
signify an upward mobility, fitting in with those who matter?




At 10:05 AM -0700 10/9/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
US BOLE TO...thats munnabhai hindi..you would have recognized it if
you were familiar with the fact that now many Assamese speak it too.

Rgds,
Sandip


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