C'da, >You are offering a solution , without having a clue to what the PROBLEM/s is/are.
I thought I had listed some of the problems in many of these posts. Now, you must tell us if there are other unique ones that "I" am not aware of. Think of me as being clueless. >**** What opportunity? Opportunities in growth, development, jobs, advances in agriculture, medical treatment - which other states either already have or are taking full advantage of. Me: >>Unfotunately, the instability (real or imagined) does no good for investment from outside, C'da: >*** Are you hoping for outsiders to rescue Assam Ram? That 'culture of dependency' >has steeped in pretty deep, has it? >Assam can't depend on anyone but itself. That is its only hope. Question is HOW it could be >brought about? C'da, I am totally taken aback. What 'culture of dependency' are we talking about here? I am not aware on ANY COUNTRY or region that is NOT interested in "investments" - specially foreign investments. No, I will leave this to you. Can you name just one country (or a region) which does not hanker after investments whether from within the country or outside? I can give you vivid examples from the US and other countries and regions - where every modern state hankers after investments. >Can you explain how you see your solution of 'autonomy ' will do that? I have already done that - in the last few posts. Apparently, you either did not read them or don't like them. But as you indicate, I must have no clue of Assam's problems. In such a scenario, I obviously cannot put forth any solution - good or bad. Obviously, you do. So, could you please enlighten all of us here, with just 2 things: List out the problems Give us a solution with of course all the reasons - no hype, no spin - just straight forward answers to simple folks like us:) --Ram On 10/11/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ram: > > > You are offering a solution , without having a clue to what the PROBLEM/s > is/are. > > > How can you do something like that, have you pondered? > > > Just like all those others who keep asserting that sovereignty is NOT A > SOLUTION, without ever telling (or attempting to understand) what the > problem is. > > > > > > Assam not being able to take full advantage of the many opportuniti > > > **** What opportunity? > > > > > >Unfotunately, the instability (real or imagined) does no good for > investment from outside, > > > *** Are you hoping for outsiders to rescue Assam Ram? That 'culture of > dependency' has steeped in pretty deep, has it? > > > Assam can't depend on anyone but itself. That is its only hope. Question > is HOW it could be brought about? > > > > > > > Can you explain how you see your solution of 'autonomy ' will do that? > > > > > *When I or you or anybody offer a solution to something, we, as minimally > able and of some basic degree of intelligence can be expected to have a > rudimentary understanding of what the problem is, and how the proposed > solution might work. Would it be an unreasonable assumption?* > > > So tell us, would you? > > > I am not seeking a detailed plan for Oxom's uddhar. Just give a layman's > overall view of a problem statement and how your solution is expected to > work. > > > > > Don't be alarmed about the follow-up questions that are bound to arise, > unless you are concerned about not being able to explain and look bad :-). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 8:51 PM -0600 10/10/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > C'da, > > > > >*** Best for WHAT? > > > > Are we skipping around?. I said that because I feel that IT MAY Be* > a*solution to the present day instability in Assam and Assam not being able to > take full advantage of the many opportunities. > > > > Unfotunately, the instability (real or imagined) does no good for > investment from outside, and companies like Infosys are not eager to even > hedge their bets vis-a-vis Assam. > > > > If greater autonomy can bring peace and stability, then its probably well > worth it. > > > > --Ram > > > > On 10/10/07,* Chan Mahanta* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I like autonomy, because it is probably the best solution for Assam. > > > > > > > > *** Best for WHAT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 6:46 PM -0500 10/10/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > C'da, > > > > We seem to be going around in circles. > > > > >You and many others have never admitted there is any problem, and > implied that its disaffections are figments of some anti_Indian minds. > > > > I have* never* said Assam has NO PROBLEMS. In fact, its just the opposite, > I have always said Assam is daunted by a number of problems. > > I have always been keen on autonomy for states, and not just Assam. I > believe all states could benefit. > > > > The essence of all these years of debating with you and some others is > that you seem to believe that problems in Assam are such > > that they can be solved only through complete independence, and that Assam > will be better off than being with India. > > Further, all the problems in Assam somehow have their roots in Delhi. > > > > > implied that its disaffections are figments of some anti_Indian minds > > > > The other argument put forth (when deemed necessary) and which I often > hear is what I call the "instrinsic" argument. > > This basically states, that Assam is/was never a part of India, we are not > Indians - no roots etc exists that may tie the two - and hence separation. > > > > But for all the clamor, we have yet to hear of a coherent and viable > proposal of how Assam could exist outside the Union, > > what Assam's territorial area would be and more importantly why > sovereignty is a MUST. > > > > I like autonomy, because it is probably the best solution for Assam. It is > both practical and viable, and New Delhi may actually be willing to listen. > > Sovereignty, on the other hand seems like an illusion, a wishlist for > some, a 'Xonor Oxom', and next to impossible to attain, IMHO. > > > > In any case, that is what I feel, and am not sure if there are any takers, > but there you have it. > > > > > --Ram > > > > > On 10/10/07,* Chan Mahanta* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I asked the question Ram, to see WHAT, in your mind is the problem with > Assam, for which AUTONOMY is the solution. > > > > > You and many others have never admitted there is any problem, and implied > that its disaffections are figments of some anti_Indian minds. Are you > suggesting there is something the matter ? If it is, what is it as far as > you can see it? Once you articulate that, then we can examine if the > solution you propose has any merit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 4:01 PM -0600 10/10/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote: > > C'da, > > > > I remember, several years ago, you were also interested in autonomy. But > in any case, thats only my suggestion, > > it is entirely up to the people in Assam to decide from a myraid of > suggestions. > > > > To me, autonomy would mean Assam having more control over its resources, > > and a greater say so in a number of different areas. A few aspects like > national defense, > > monetary/fiscal policy, international issues could be with the center. > > > > >Why would the people of Assam , dedicated to Indian rule as you guys are > so sure of, > > >want AUTONOMY Ram? > > > > Ok, I have given some reasons and I think this kind of scenario would also > be viable. > > > > But your scenario, a complete separation from India would in actuality > mean the end of Assam as we know it. > > With little or no resources to defend itself militarily or otherwise, the > survival chances would be minimal. > > And it is NOT out of the realm that Bangladeshis would actually rule Assam > (no Assamese). > > > > Could you tell us if you have a MORE vialble solution, instead of just > your 'wishes':) > > > > --Ram > > > > > > On 10/10/07,* Chan Mahanta* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why would the people of Assam , dedicated to Indian rule as you guys are > so sure of, want AUTONOMY Ram? > > > > > What for ? > > > > > And if they should do with autonomy, then autonomy of WHAT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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