>>*** But from what I can read, you don't have to be >>privileged to stay >>in clean hotels in India. Only the real cheap >>hotels like those >>costing Rs. 2,000/- or Rs. 3,000/- per night are >>filthy :-).
If you cannot read simple English, I cannot help. I have mentioned about a couple of hotels in 1500-1600 range. Let me know if for your conveniece I need to write that in some other language like Hindi :) may be. BTW, I forgot to add one more to that list of hotels --- Sindura in Chennai ... if you have a patient in Apollo, the hotel charges Rs1000 Else the charge is around Rs2000 (or less). Facilities are very good. >>there is such a >>thing called users' comments and feedback. Someone >>who booked hotel >>rooms thru the internet should know that by now. Did you check tripadvisor? Or you are avoiding lest it hurts your American EGO. If you go by al comments you will need to reject half of budget hotels of US. >>When I get substandard >>service, I don't go back to them, because there are >>PLENTY of choices >>available, unlike around DumDum. But I learnt from your posting that you found some acceptable ones in Cal too .... so there indeed are choice everywhere ... you just need to find and book in advance >>Question is which is true? I am certain it won't >>take the brains of >>a steel-trap minded IIT engineer or IIM business >>whiz to figure that >>out. You need not take my words , just check tripadvisor and with your IIT and Phoren trained brains try to find the answer. Or may be you can try to find how the hotels in Dumdum survives. >>**** Nooo! It must be the American hotels that are >>hotbeds of >>infestation. You have pointed it out yourself >>with THAT HOJO >>example from Orlando that must be the archetype of >>US motels/hotels. Hmmm .... is it again the CM twist putting words in ones mouth OR is it your difficulty in reading simple english. Please point it out where I mentioned that the HOJO had infestation . In fact, it was YOU who agreed that bed bug infestation "is an epidemic even in some of the city's glitziest high-rise condos and apartment houses, a public health crisis, almost" >>Why else would HOJO won't live up to its >>responsibilities while >>>>selling its name ? That is the big conundrum >>here, isn't it? But I >>am sure an IIM MBA can explain the riddle. Shall we? A simple google search in HOJO complaint will probably help you getting closer to get your answer. You can then get a Harvard MBA (you know Desi education does not teach a thing) to solve the mystery. >>*** It is not apathy. It is a knowledge gleaned >>from observing many a >>desi in these shores who make sweeping judgements >>about the world >>from tiny examples and insignificant experiences, We have seen this apathy when Umesh posted a You tube item. I would be interested to know your comments when some NRAs make sweeping judgement based on single experience in India. Or is it a superiority complex (Bilat ferot). >>I just happen to have a AA tour book on my desk, >>and it >>does not show either HOJO or Ramada Inn in their >>recommended >>hotels/motels list, much less rate them with stars. Check this http://ww1.aaa.com/scripts/WebObjects.dll/AAAOnline.woa/2011/wo/5nfKOBYp5kTtHXtpILUn0g/3.WOMetaRefresh Seems your superiority complex makes you disbelief everybody else. Or is it the "I know better" syndrom. BTW, I admit I typed star instead of diamond ... don't know if that makes HUGE difference >>I won't reply any more on this thread. Good , you have already tried enough to twist and put words in my mouth ... and posted a bunch of incorrect info like Hojo owned by Desi OR like AAA does not rate HOJO. >>>The POINT here is that, someone pointing out the >>dirty laundry of the >>Indian condition does not necessarily mean that the >>critic is The POINT here is someone experiecing bed bugs or filth in a sleazy Indian Hotel DOES NOT say that Indian Condition is Dirty .... If you consider an Individual's experience as yardstick, your yardstick makes American hotels worse. > >Just the way I have been fortunate to stay in clean >and safe hotels in India. *** But from what I can read, you don't have to be privileged to stay in clean hotels in India. Only the real cheap hotels like those costing Rs. 2,000/- or Rs. 3,000/- per night are filthy :-). > >Unfortunately, I do not know of any technology that >allows to physically verify the cleanliness, quality of beds etc through internet. *** That is an astute observation, possible only from a highly trained Indian technocrat like Asok of Dilbert. But there is such a thing called users' comments and feedback. Someone who booked hotel rooms thru the internet should know that by now. > >You can just put a complaint to HOJO or inquire about >their franchise model . Unfortunately, I did not save their response ... else could have sent it to you **** I have no interest in seeing them. When I get substandard service, I don't go back to them, because there are PLENTY of choices available, unlike around DumDum. But my curiosity remains: If HOJO 's business model has no room to respond to customer complaints and disaffections, and THAT HOJO franchise epitomize the state of the motel/hotel business, as you argue, it could mean only two things: Customers are fools and don't know or care when they are getting the short end of the stick and still keep going back to them. Or that there are no other choices available and are forced to. Question is which is true? I am certain it won't take the brains of a steel-trap minded IIT engineer or IIM business whiz to figure that out. > >Just check up Tripadvisor.com and you will find >complaints against numerous hotels in US not just "THAT HOJO". **** Surprise of surprises! I did not realize US hotels can be bad. I am devastated!! But there is an antidote to it. Isn't there? When you see the complaints should you go back to them? Or are there no choices? >BTW, you (and many NRA/NRI) have numerous complaint >against different Indian products/services. Ask an >Harvard MBA to explain how these Indian businesses are surviving. **** Do they? Must be their false sense of superiority, making you Indians look bad. I do have some ideas, but I lack common sense. Why don't you tell us? You are the expert. > >As a matter of fact, I did not find it in any hotel >in India ... even not so expensive ones ... may be I was lucky. **** Nooo! It must be the American hotels that are hotbeds of infestation. You have pointed it out yourself with THAT HOJO example from Orlando that must be the archetype of US motels/hotels. > >The hotels ranged from budget to 5 stars like Park *** I happen to know a whole lot about the Park Hotel. I was there when it opened. My close buddy and then partner was the hotel architect and sat with Jit Paul in his a/c office. But that was long ago. I hope the inside story has since gotten better. > >Also, what is important here is should (ethically) a >chain owner own up the responsibility or just sell his name and sit tight. *** Wow! I learn something everyday. So what should we surmise from this piece of wisdom that you shared? A: AAA rating means nothing. They rate it ** or *** to a hellhole like HOJO franchise. B: That HOJO customers , American fools, flock to it, in spite of it being the pits. Why else would HOJO won't live up to its responsibilities while selling its name ? That is the big conundrum here, isn't it? But I am sure an IIM MBA can explain the riddle. Shall we? > > We know about your apathy towards FOB *** It is not apathy. It is a knowledge gleaned from observing many a desi in these shores who make sweeping judgements about the world from tiny examples and insignificant experiences, while remaining mired in a defensive mode from their own inferiority complexes borne out of decades of ineffectiveness in improving their national lot. > >Heh-heh ---- couple of years back I used a AAA >Approved auto repair shop which was trying to rip me >with an estimate of $1600. I moved to a different >shop and was done with $900 ... . >When I complained to AAA they came up with >explanations like our Approved shops give 1 year >warranty on repairs etc. >And I already mentioned about the fate of my complaint >to AAA in this issue. >Want to know more ? AAA gave me an incorrect Auto >Insurance quote last year and dropped my collission >coverage. When I contacted, they added the same and >charged me $400 extra. It was only after I moved to >Dept of Insurance, did they waived the additional >charge. Being a recent incident I have all the documents if you want to verify. **** No need to prove. This I can believe . I always go to dealership repair shops , even though I know I pay more, because they are more reliable. > >but the company >which owns HOJO also owns Ramada which run some star >category hotels. Also, HOJO hotels are rated 2 - 3 star by AAA. On the other hand, I am yet to be burnt on a AAA rated motel. There however are different ratings. One has to know what the AAA one diamond, two diamond or three diamond ratings are and what the black diamonds represent or red diamonds represent. They do not have STAR (*) ratings. I just happen to have a AA tour book on my desk, and it does not show either HOJO or Ramada Inn in their recommended hotels/motels list, much less rate them with stars. I won't reply any more on this thread. The POINT here is that, someone pointing out the dirty laundry of the Indian condition does not necessarily mean that the critic is attempting to compare it with the American or European or the developed world. So the abject defensiveness displayed by the offended proves only one thing: Their own inferiority complex. At 1:42 PM -0800 1/11/08, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: >But I have also >>been fortunate >>>enough now to go stay in hotels that are safer bets. > >Just the way I have been fortunate to stay in clean >and safe hotels in India. > > > >>we choose our hotels >>>for location, cleanliness and room comforts , like >>>the quality of the >>>beds, the pillows, the air-conditioning and so > >Unfortunately, I do not know of any technology that >allows to physically verify the cleanliness, quality >of beds etc through internet. > > >>>Perhaps an MBA will explain how HOJOs stay in >>>business, if their >>>business model is what KC experienced at Orlando > >You can just put a complaint to HOJO or inquire about >their franchise model . Unfortunately, I did not >save their response ... else could have sent it to you > >Just check up Tripadvisor.com and you will find >complaints against numerous hotels in US not just >"THAT HOJO". > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping _______________________________________________ assam mailing list [email protected] http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
