Ram-da, I was guessing the same but the concept seemed unique :-) Brahma-putra - the Son of God ( Brahma = the One and only God, Putra = Son)
Umesh Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Umesh, That would be Brahmaputra or Brahma's son.Supposedly, the only male river in India, all the rest are feminine. I am not sure about a river like Ravi in the Punjab - sounds like a male name. --Ram da On 6/2/08, Manoj Das wrote: > > hi Umesh > > This male river in question is our 'bor luit'- Only male river in the > world..mythologically though..:) > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:32 AM, umesh sharma > wrote: > > > what is this "male river" > > > > any misprints? :-) > > > > Umesh > > > > Manoj Das wrote: I was thinking this all along! > > > > When I shared this news with a Japanese thinker from ADB, he was > stunned.. > > There are many players in this. Number one is Bangladesh, which is > > constantly frustrating India's efforts to get transit through the male > > river. Secondly a grand politics of undermining Assam's destined position > > as > > the land bridge between giant Asian land and economic masses. > > > > mkd > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Dilip&Dil Deka wrote: > > > > > Forwarding. > > > > > > Dilip&Dil Deka wrote: Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 > > > 20:58:13 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: Dilip&Dil Deka > > > Subject: Re: [Assam] Los Angeles Times on Northeast India > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Dear Sanjib, > > > You said, "But are they producing or is it only assembling products. > I > > > don't know the answer. " > > > Even Assembling products is better than not doing anything. Mexico is > > > making a lot of money assembling products for USA. Assembling products > > > eventually leads to local production if the local entrepreneurs mean to > > take > > > part in the process. > > > Car battery industry is a good example. As I understand, back in > > seventies > > > batteries were assembled in Assam. I heard that most of the parts are > now > > > made in Assam. Is it true? > > > Dilipda > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Dear Dilipda and Mahanta, > > > > > > Good hearing from you. I am skeptical, as Mahanta has noted. But not > > > because a lot new is not taking place -- but because things that are > > > crucial for a breakthrough are not happenning. There is a much more > > > affluent India, and many in Delhi are genuinely committed to doing > > > more. So if earlier we talked about 100 crores, now the language is of > > > 1000 crores. But is money enough? Domestic policy and foreign policy > > > cannot be separated when it comes to Northeast India. Our relations > > > with China may be improving in many ways, but not when it comes to > > > Arunchal Pradesh. Only last summer China has begun referring to AP as > > > China's Southern Tibet. So long as the Burmese military regime is > > > there, huge amount of foreign funds are not going to move in to build > > > infrastructure in Burma. Indian money or Chinese money can do a little > > > bit of this and that, but not the funds that could be mobilized for > > > Northeast india to benefit from India's Look East policy. No matter > > > how much we shout about Bangladesh's animosity, the burden of normal > > > relations is on the bigger neighbour as in all such cases of a country > > > that is far more resourceful than the aggreived smaller neighbor. We > > > may be landocked by India, said a Bangladeshi foreign minister, but > > > Northeast india is landlocked by us. So the military man's vision of > > > the Look East policy -- linking up with the Burmese or the Bangaldeshi > > > army to get support for their anti-insurgency operations--is a very > > > poor substitute to the huge leap of resources -- material as well as > > > intellectual -- that is needed for the task. At the same time I am > > > willing to say that we do not know the implications of some of the > > > huge amount of money that is being spent. There are about 15 daily > > > flights from Delhi to Guwahati -- more than any other comparable city. > > > There is much more energetic road-building (and the massive > > > disappearance of trees and of the familiar surroundings around the > > > trunk road) etc etc. I know the planes carry many businessmen taking > > > advantage of the tax benefits of investing in the region. But are they > > > producing or is it only assembling products. I don't know the answer. > > > But we surely need a new language to talk about the region -- > > > certainty "neglect" is not what is happenning any more. > > > > > > Hope all is well. > > > > > > With warm regards, > > > > > > Sanjib > > > > > > > > > Quoting Chan Mahanta : > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing the article Baruah. > > > > > > > > But I share your skepticism. We have heard these for decades on end > > > > now. The politicians attempt to take credit for imaginary > > > > achievements and establishment spokespersons paint rosy scenarios, in > > > > the air. But what has the reality been? > > > > > > > > m > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 8:33 PM -0400 5/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-india29-2008may29,0,6712115.story > > > >> > > > >> From the Los Angeles Times > > > >> Northeast India is poised to tap economic potential > > > >> The eight-state area plans multiple projects to increase its trade > > > >> with Southeast Asia. > > > >> By Shankhadeep Choudhury > > > >> Los Angeles Times Staff Writer > > > >> > > > >> May 29, 2008 > > > >> > > > >> NEW DELHI - India's remote northeast region has been both blessed > and > > > >> cursed by its geography. The region is rich in natural resources but > > > >> is landlocked and surrounded by China, Myanmar, Bangladesh and > Bhutan, > > > >> leaving it impoverished. > > > >> > > > >> The eight-state region may finally get a chance to start living up > to > > > >> its economic potential with several projects to enhance connections > > > >> with Southeast Asia and to increase outlets for such commodities as > > > >> organic foods, orchids, tea, coal and oil. > > > >> > > > >> Now, the only way to move major quantities of goods between > northeast > > > >> India and Southeast Asia is through Bangladesh. > > > >> > > > >> But authorities in Myanmar and India are nearing final approval of a > > > >> $100-million river project giving northeast India direct access to > the > > > >> Indian Ocean through Myanmar, said Abhijit Barooah, chairman of the > > > >> northeastern chapter of the Confederation of Indian Industry, > India's > > > >> premier business association. > > > >> > > > >> The project envisages facilitating movement of cargo from India's > > > >> Mizoram state to Myanmar's port at Sittwe, via the Kaladan River. > > > >> > > > >> In addition, talks have begun between companies in northeast India > and > > > >> Thailand after a trade-promotion conference in Bangkok in October, > > > >> said Lemli Loyi, assistant general manager at the state-run North > > > >> Eastern Development Finance Corp. Loyi expressed hope that the talks > > > >> would result in increased business and possible joint ventures. > > > >> > > > >> India first enunciated a "look east" policy, an economic and > strategic > > > >> orientation toward Southeast Asia, in 1992. It had its genesis at > the > > > >> end of the Cold War, after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Having > > > >> lost the Soviet economic and political support on which it had > relied, > > > >> the Indian government embarked on a program of free-market > > > >> restructuring at home and sought new markets and economic partners > > > >> abroad. > > > >> > > > >> Officials envisaged that the eight northeast states -- Assam, > > > >> Meghalaya, Manipur, Nagaland, Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, Tripura and > > > >> Mizoram -- would emerge as a trading hub for two dynamic regions > > > >> connected by a network of highways, railways, pipelines and > > > >> transmission lines. The region is home to about 40 million people. > > > >> > > > >> But progress has been slow. The region's isolation dates to the > 1800s. > > > >> > > > >> "Nineteenth-century British colonial decisions to draw lines between > > > >> the hills and the plains, to put barriers on trade between Bhutan > and > > > >> Assam, and to treat Burma as a buffer against French Indochina and > > > >> China severed the region from its traditional trade routes -- the > > > >> southern trails of the Silk Road," said Sanjib Baruah, a professor > of > > > >> political science at Bard College in New York and an expert on > > > >> northeast India. > > > >> > > > >> The British built railways and roads mostly to take tea, coal, oil > and > > > >> other resources out of Assam and into the rest of India and also to > > > >> Europe. > > > >> > > > >> The problems increased with the partitioning of India and Pakistan > in > > > >> 1947. Bangladesh broke away from Pakistan in the 1970s. > > > >> > > > >> Barooah said trade would be boosted by an expected move by the > Indian > > > >> and Myanmar governments to expand the list of mostly agricultural > > > >> commodities allowed to be traded by land between northeast India and > > > >> Myanmar, from 27 to 42 items. > > > >> > > > >> "The northeast is the closest land mass connecting the dynamic > > > >> economies of south and Southeast Asia," said Pradyut Bordoloi, > Assam's > > > >> minister for power and industries. "Besides deep-rooted cultural > > > >> linkages, we can reap multidimensional benefits in this era of > > > >> regional economic cooperation." > > > >> > > > >> Bordoloi is closely associated with a campaign to reopen the World > War > > > >> II-era Stillwell Road, connecting Assam's town of Ledo to southwest > > > >> China. > > > >> > > > >> "If reopened, this would be the shortest surface route to Yunnan > > > >> province of China and other Southeast Asian countries hooking onto > the > > > >> trans-Asian highways," he said. > > > >> > > > >> The road served as the supply line into China during Japan's wartime > > > >> occupation, but it was shut after India's independence from Britain > in > > > >> 1947. > > > >> > > > >> Bordoloi said his campaign to reopen the road, initiated after he > > > >> became a state legislator in 1998, scored a victory when India > > > >> upgraded the road to a full-fledged national highway, developing it > up > > > >> to the Indo-Myanmar border. > > > >> > > > >> Officials say infrastructure development, power, bamboo-based > > > >> industries, orchids and organic foods are prospective areas of > > > >> cooperation with Southeast Asian countries such as Thailand. > > > >> > > > >> But significant hurdles remain, including concerns that booming > trade > > > >> relations may fuel rises in insurgency, narco-terrorism and AIDS, > all > > > >> of which plague the northeast. Security in the region is tight, with > > > >> the army out in force to combat armed groups battling for greater > > > >> autonomy or independence from India. > > > >> > > > >> "The official restrictions that prevail in northeast India -- in > terms > > > >> of travel, land and labor markets -- are hardly conducive to > intensive > > > >> cross-border economic relations," said Baruah, the political science > > > >> professor. > > > >> > > > >> "Both the reality of insurgencies in the region and the security > > > >> anxiety of the government of India . . . are major obstacles to > > > >> dynamic cross-border economic ties," he added, calling current > efforts > > > >> hardly more than "a bare beginning." > > > >> > > > >> Also, Baruah said, it was difficult to imagine a big increase in > trade > > > >> given the political situation in military-led Myanmar. > > > >> > > > >> India's relations with China, a country it has long regarded with > > > >> distrust since a 1962 border war, would also have to become much > more > > > >> relaxed, Baruah said. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> assam mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > assam mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > assam mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Manoj Kumar Das > > C 172 GF, Sarvodaya Enclave > > New Delhi 17 India > > 0091 9312650558 (HP) 9910972654 > > _______________________________________________ > > assam mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > > > > Umesh Sharma > > > > Washington D.C. > > > > 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] > > > > Ed.M. - International Education Policy > > Harvard Graduate School of Education, > > Harvard University, > > Class of 2005 > > > > http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) > > > > http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) > > > > > > > > > > www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) > > http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/ > > > > > > > > http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ > > > > --------------------------------- > > Sent from Yahoo! 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