This from Reuters.

It looks like RIM has been having problems with a number of countries,
including China & a few individuals like me:-)

If you forget to lock the damn keyboard, it might dial China or Timbuktu
(the famous Indian butt trick :-)).

Google, I think, has got out of China.

--Ram

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*FACTBOX - BlackBerry under fire from states seeking access*
 2010-08-12 18:00:00

[image: FACTBOX - BlackBerry under fire from states seeking access]
A man tests a BlackBerry smart phone at a shopping mall in Dubai August 1,
...

BlackBerry maker Research In Motion<RIM.TO> is facing demands for access to
its encrypted data in some of its fastest-growing markets.

RIM's encrypted traffic is delivered through its network operating centres,
based mostly in Canada, though corporate clients can choose to host their
BlackBerry Enterprise Servers elsewhere. RIM says it cannot access data sent
via its devices.

RIM does not give usage numbers by region, but research firm Gartner
estimates that, of 10.55 million BlackBerry devices shipped in the last
quarter, 1.4 percent went to the Middle East and Africa, 7.6 percent to Asia
and 9.5 percent to Latin America.

North America took more than half and more than a quarter went to western
Europe.

Below is a factbox showing how different governments have dealt with
concerns raised by BlackBerry's encrypted data.

INDIA

The government put off a decision on Thursday on whether to ban BlackBerry
services over national security fears after a meeting of officials,
intelligence services and telecoms operators.

A government official said on Wednesday that the government could ask mobile
phone operators to block BlackBerry messaging and email until RIM provides
access to data transmitted.

An Indian government source told Reuters last week that RIM had proposed to
share some details of its BlackBerry services but security agencies were
demanding full access to a messaging service it fears could be misused by
militants.

Indian security agencies suspect militants used BlackBerry services to plan
a 2008 Mumbai attack in which 166 people died.

3G wireless networks due in late 2010 or early 2011 are expected to boost
interest in BlackBerry devices. India already has one mobile connection for
every two of its 1.2 billion people and adds 16 million new subscribers a
month.

CHINA

RIM's plans to enter China in 2006 were delayed by about two years, with
analysts blaming Beijing's demands that RIM prove its handsets posed no
security threat.

RIM eventually began selling BlackBerry handsets in 2008 in a tieup with
dominant operator China Mobile <0941.HK>, but usage has reportedly been
weak. In May, RIM launched a BlackBerry service with China Telecom <0728.HK>,
the smallest of China's three mobile carriers.

China limits ownership of its telecoms networks, due in part to security
concerns, and has been slow to allow foreign operators to build their own
networks.

BlackBerry's experience is part of Beijing's broader effort to control the
flow of information. Beijing often blocks websites on sensitive issues and
requires Internet firms operating in the country to self-censor on those
subjects.

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

 The UAE, where RIM has 500,000 users, has proposed a ban starting October
11 targeting BlackBerry Messenger as well as email and Web browsing. It will
also apply to visitors.

The Gulf state said it proposed the ban after three years of fruitless talks
with RIM, which last year said state-controlled operator Etisalat had sought
to install an unauthorised surveillance application on its devices.

It objects on security grounds to data being exported offshore and managed
by a "foreign, commercial operation".

Activists in the UAE say the move may have been prompted by messenger
campaigns, including critiques of state officials and attempts to organise
protests.

Mobile phone service providers have scrambled to hold on to half a million
users by offering them a switch to Apple's iPhone and other rival
smartphones.

SAUDI ARABIA

A source close to talks said Research in Motion had agreed to hand over user
codes that would let Saudi authorities monitor its BlackBerry Messenger to
avert a move by the telecommunications regulator to ban the service.

Such an arrangement would effectively give Saudi Arabia access to RIM's main
server for Messenger -- for communications with Saudi users, the source
said. RIM made no comment.

Most users in the biggest Arab economy are consumers. Messenging is used by
Saudi youth to meet members of the opposite sex in a deeply conservative
society.

KUWAIT, ALGERIA, LEBANON

Kuwait does not plan to follow the example of its Gulf neighbours by banning
BlackBerry services, but has been holding talks with the manufacturer about
moral and security concerns, the communications minister said last week.

He said RIM had been asked to block pornographic sites and the company
requested four months to deal with the request.

Algeria's goverment is reviewing the use of the BlackBerry and will ban it
if it concludes the device threatens national security, a minister was
quoted as saying last week.

Lebanon hopes RIM will provide a programme allowing it to access
information, a minister said last week. Lebanon's worries coincide with
concern over the inegrity of the telecom network after the arrest of three
people suspected of spying for Israel.

UNITED STATES

The State Department calls the UAE's planned ban a dangerous precedent in
limiting freedom of information, but the White House has had its own issues
with BlackBerry.

President Barack Obama had to push to keep his BlackBerry upon assuming
office due to security concerns and the fact that presidential emails are
considered public records. His phone received enhanced security and his
address book was reduced to personal friends and senior staff.

U.S. law enforcement authorities need to obtain a court order signed by a
judge to access call logs or data from a phone, BlackBerry or iPhone.

BRITAIN

RIM's system is considered so secure Britain's intelligence community
permits BlackBerry use to send and receive information up to a level where
release could limit the effectiveness of military operations or compromise
law enforcement.

Public bodies who want to gain access to past communications data must
obtain a warrant from the interior minister, or permission from a senior
police, defence or customs authority.

RUSSIA

Russia's two biggest carriers began offering BlackBerry services in late
2007, after years of negotiations between RIM and the federal security
service that did not involve handing over encryption codes. BlackBerry
Enterprise Servers for Russian corporate clients are hosted by the operator
or the enterprise.

EUROPEAN UNION

The European Union's commission has rejected the BlackBerry in favour of
Apple's iPhone and HTC smartphones. It reviewed its choice of smartphone
against a number criteria, including security and financial impact, when it
deployed a new technology platform in 2008.

FRANCE

In 2007, a French security agency recommended that cabinet ministers and
President Nicolas Sarkozy stop using BlackBerry services due to concerns
that the data might not be secure.

Many top ministers have since been issued specially encrypted smartphones
instead.

GERMANY, AUSTRIA

The German government has urged staffers not to use the BlackBerry and
several ministries have banned its use.

BlackBerry Enterprise Servers for Austrian corporate clients are located in
Britain and operated by RIM, an industry source said. There is so far no law
allowing the interception of encrypted email traffic, the source said.

(Compiled by Reuters bureau)





On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Chan Mahanta <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think China too had something with RIM , in recent days.
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Dilip and Dil Deka wrote:
>
> > China confronted a larger company Google from USA. Saudi Arabia and UAE
> took on RIM (Blackberry). So India will not be in the same league with
> China. :-)
> > ======================================================
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/12/10, Chan Mahanta <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chan Mahanta <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Is India Govt wasting its time chasing BlackBerry?
> > To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world"
> <[email protected]>
> > Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 3:01 PM
> >
> >
> > Maybe so Ram, but what about the PRESTIGE issue? Black Berry made some
> deal with China, didn't it? Why should India
> >
> > not get equal treatment ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Ram Dhar wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Interesting read -
> >>
> >>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/telecom/India-is-wasting-its-time-chasing-BlackBerry/articleshow/6282167.cms
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