Dilipda, If I remember correctly the DC Circuit Court of Appeals upheld (more than once) the Executive Order that President Obama signed soon after taking office. I do not have details or figures about specific programs, but I do know that some stem cell researchers came back to the U.S. (from their self imposed "exiles" in Singapore and South Korea) after the EO was signed and funds became available.
Anyway, that was just an example, but the broader point I was trying to make is that elections have consequences. I work in policy and I see this happen everyday. The adverse impacts of scientifically illiterate elected members and their anti-science policies will not be apparent overnight primarily because such policies work by chipping away at programs on the margins and because the U.S. has very resilient institutions. Without corrective action, over time, they will undo the enormous advantages the U.S. holds in fundamental research. By then, those very professors and graduate students will not longer be able to "save our reputation." Amlan. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Dilip Deka <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Amlan, > Thanks for the reminder. There were some lawsuits and counter suits after > 2009. Is there a clear path now? - that is what I am not sure of. > Are federal grants flowing for independent stem cell research in places > like M.D.Anderson Center? I heard that some of their programs stopped due > to lack of money. > Dilipda > ================================================================ > --- On Wed, 11/14/12, amlan saha <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: amlan saha <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Assam] Hot News from USA > > To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the > world" <[email protected]> > > Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 9:26 AM > > http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/09/obama.stem.cells/index.html > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Dilip Deka <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Are federal dollars available now for stem cell > > research? Has there been > > > an official change in the last four years? - I haven't > > kept up with it. > > > Dilip > > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/14/12, amlan saha <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: amlan saha <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [Assam] Hot News from USA > > > > To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam > > from around the > > > world" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 9:14 AM > > > > Except that, sometimes, loons like > > > > these can have real impact - recall the > > > > lack of federal dollars for stem cell research > > during the > > > > Republican years. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Dilip Deka > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > What saves our reputation is that the > > committee members > > > > do not represent > > > > > the USA in the international scientific > > community. The > > > > professors and > > > > > graduate students from universities and the > > researchers > > > > from the science > > > > > industry do.So, who cares what these > > committee members > > > > say - they are there > > > > > to warm the chairs our political system has > > put in > > > > D.C. > > > > > It'd help if there was a way to remove some > > of these > > > > chairs and put them > > > > > in the basement. > > > > > Dilip > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 11/14/12, Chan Mahanta <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > From: Chan Mahanta <[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Assam] Hot News from USA > > > > > > To: "A Mailing list for people > > interested in Assam > > > > from around the > > > > > world" <[email protected]> > > > > > > Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 8:50 > > AM > > > > > > Maybe so Dilip, but it looks > > > > > > terrible! While the world looks up to > > America's > > > > scientific > > > > > > might, we put these buffoons to > > represent us. It > > > > > > demonstrates a certain attitude, one > > that is > > > > eating American > > > > > > basic education out from the guts. Not > > good! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 14, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Dilip Deka > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Think of the reason why the science > > committee > > > > gets such > > > > > > members. > > > > > > > To start with, science is not an > > attractive > > > > subject in > > > > > > USA. So, anything to do with science > > gets lower > > > > ranking than > > > > > > say economy, finance, health,social > > security etc. > > > > Thus, the > > > > > > science committee does not attract the > > star > > > > players. The > > > > > > rejects who do not get selected to any > > other > > > > committee opt > > > > > > for the likes of science committee.The > > common man > > > > does not > > > > > > care what rubbish the science committee > > puts out > > > > or what the > > > > > > members utter in the name of science. > > The > > > > importance of a > > > > > > committee is measured in terms of how > > many dollars > > > > it > > > > > > influences. > > > > > > > Dilip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/13/12, Chan Mahanta > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Chan Mahanta <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Assam] Hot News > > from USA > > > > > > >> To: "A Mailing list for people > > interested > > > > in Assam > > > > > > from around the world" <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> Date: Tuesday, November 13, > > 2012, 9:42 > > > > PM > > > > > > >> If it is not theater of the > > absurd, I > > > > > > >> can't imagine what would be! > > > > > > >> Faat diya boxumoti paatale' > > lukaon! ( > > > > Please Mother > > > > > > earth, > > > > > > >> split asunder, so I can hide > > from this > > > > shame). > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:35 PM, > > amlan saha > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Ah, the ever amusing > > Science > > > > Committee, which > > > > > > counts > > > > > > >> among its members the > > > > > > >>> likes of > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> - *Todd Akin* > > - "If > > > > it’s a > > > > > > >> legitimate rape, the female > > body has ways > > > > to > > > > > > >>> try to shut > > that whole > > > > thing > > > > > > down.” > > > > > > >>> - *Paul Broun* > > - “All > > > > that stuff > > > > > > I > > > > > > >> was taught about evolution and > > > > > > >>> embryology and > > the Big > > > > Bang > > > > > > Theory, > > > > > > >> all that is lies straight from > > the pit > > > > > > >>> of Hell,” > > > > > > >>> - *Roscoe > > Bartlett* - > > > > “There > > > > > > are > > > > > > >> very few pregnancies as a > > result of > > > > > > >>> rape, > > fortunately, and > > > > incest — > > > > > > >> compared to the usual abortion, > > what is > > > > the > > > > > > >>> percentage of > > abortions > > > > for rape? > > > > > > It > > > > > > >> is tiny. It is a tiny, tiny > > > > > > >>> > > percentage.” > > > > > > >>> - *Randy > > Neugebauer* - > > > > "join > > > > > > together > > > > > > >> in prayer to humbly seek fair > > > > > > >>> weather > > conditions” > > > > after > > > > > > several > > > > > > >> destructive tornadoes and > > droughts. > > > > > > >>> - *Dana > > Rohrabacher* - > > > > “We > > > > > > don’t > > > > > > >> know what those other cycles > > [of global > > > > > > >>> warming] were > > caused by > > > > in the > > > > > > past. > > > > > > >> Could be dinosaur flatulence, > > you > > > > > > >>> know, or who > > knows?” > > > > > > >>> - *Jim > > Sensenbrenner* - > > > > railed > > > > > > against > > > > > > >> "scientific fascism" and > > called > > > > > > >>> climate change > > research > > > > an > > > > > > >> "international conspiracy". > > > > > > >>> - *Sandy > > Adams* - voted > > > > in favor > > > > > > of a > > > > > > >> bill to teach theories that > > > > > > >>> contradict the > > theory > > > > of > > > > > > evolution. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Rohrabacher and > > Sensenbrenner are now > > > > in the > > > > > > running to > > > > > > >> take the gavel of > > > > > > >>> the Committee in the 113th > > Congress! > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at > > 10:05 PM, > > > > Chan Mahanta > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> He is still a > > Congressman you > > > > know, lame > > > > > > duck as he > > > > > > >> is. But it is > > > > > > >>> appalling to see the > > pea-brained > > > > people that > > > > > > are in the > > > > > > >> Science > > > > > > >>> Subcommittee. It is a > > pathetic joke. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at > > 7:02 PM, > > > > "Alpana B. > > > > > > >> Sarangapani" < > > > > > > >>> [email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>> I meant - if it > > were a hot > > > > topic, > > > > > > then!. : ) > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I can > > see why > > > > Bobby Jindal > > > > > > is > > > > > > >> urging HIS people to “stop > > being the > > > > > > >>> stupid party” . > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> What about him, in > > spite of > > > > being > > > > > > Rhodes > > > > > > >> Scholar being a gung-ho > > > > > > >>> supporter of the NRA? > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> I thought Todd Akin > > lost. Can > > > > he still > > > > > > serve at > > > > > > >> a (any) Congressional > > > > > > >>> Committee? > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> Sent from my iPad > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at > > 3:20 PM, > > > > "Chan > > > > > > Mahanta" > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> I didn't get > > that, A. > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>> On Nov 13, > > 2012, at 3:14 > > > > PM, > > > > > > "Alpana B. > > > > > > >> Sarangapani" < > > > > > > >>> [email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> But that > > would have > > > > made > > > > > > India's cases > > > > > > >> similar to that, stronger, > > > > > > >>> don't you think, C-da? : ) > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> Sent from > > my iPhone > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Nov 13, > > 2012, at > > > > 2:58 PM, > > > > > > "Chan > > > > > > >> Mahanta" <[email protected]> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Oh, > > darn A! > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Looks > > like I had > > > > been > > > > > > losing sleep > > > > > > >> over nothing. > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> But > > anyway, it > > > > was fun > > > > > > reading > > > > > > >> about it. Where else can we get > > such > > > > > > >>> interesting news from? I > > mean > > > > > > >>>>>>>> other > > than > > > > Missouri. Did > > > > > > you > > > > > > >> know our very own Todd > > Akin serves > > > > at > > > > > > >>> the Congressional Science > > > > Sub-committee? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I can > > see why > > > > Bobby Jindal > > > > > > is > > > > > > >> urging HIS people to “stop > > being the > > > > > > >>> stupid party” . > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Used to > > think > > > > that India > > > > > > had > > > > > > >> problems, you know? > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Nov > > 13, 2012, > > > > at 2:44 > > > > > > PM, > > > > > > >> "Alpana B. Sarangapani" < > > > > > > >>> [email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> It > > has (or > > > > is) never > > > > > > been a hot > > > > > > >> topic even to think or discuss > > > > > > >>> about it, let alone be > > tensed about > > > > it. : ) > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > Sent from my > > > > iPhone > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On > > Nov 13, > > > > 2012, at > > > > > > 12:29 PM, > > > > > > >> "Chan Mahanta" <[email protected]> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Folks, > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > I am > > > > greatly > > > > > > relieved to > > > > > > >> share a terrific piece of news > > that many > > > > > > >>> of us Markhowas have been > > sweating > > > > under since > > > > > > November > > > > > > >> 6: That the leader > > > > > > >>> of the Secessionist > > movement from > > > > Texas is a > > > > > > real > > > > > > >> Gandhian, says "---We > > > > > > >>> walk in the same vein as > > Gandhi and > > > > those > > > > > > guys" > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > For more > > > > on it, > > > > > > look up: > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Read > > > > more: > > > > > > >>> > > > http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83776.html#ixzz2C8161Xxo > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Now my > > > > question to > > > > > > our > > > > > > >> friends from Texas is if they > > too are > > > > > > >>> equally relieved. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > cm :-) > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > PS: I > > > > understand > > > > > > that Texas > > > > > > >> Governor 'Oops' Perry, once a > > > > > > >>> secessionist himself, will > > not back > > > > the new > > > > > > freedom > > > > > > >> seekers. > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >> > > > > 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