Dear Saurav: 

It is probably important to understand that the social norms or pressures which drive 
people to female foeticide (and by extension, infanticide) in India are not simply 
matters of abstract social values. 

They are driven by certain ground realities - among them, soaring dowry prices, the 
ability of unmarried daughters to grab property share (and perhaps related to this 
-the inability of emerging family structures to care for unmarried female dependents). 
To add to it, the increasing tendency for dowries in wealthy families to be at least 
as large as the daughter's share of property + a preium for the groom's matket value. 
The latter implies that the wealthier a household is, the more it has to lose by way 
of dowry when marrying off a daughter and hence greater the incentive to indulge in 
selective foeticide from that angle (the cost being roughly same for poor and rich 
families). 

I personally think there is precious little that the state can do other than economic 
empowering and education of women so that the mothers can resist.

But my own dilemma is related more to the issue of whether liberal values ought to 
give the unfettered right to parents (or mothers) to decide on whether to abort. If 
Samantha in Massachusetts decides to go for abortion because she thinks   the baby 
will cram her style, affect her career or because she cannot afford it - and we 
strongly support her right to do so - then can we ethically turn to Mala (assuming its 
Mala who is deciding) in north Delhi who for similar economic reasons (can't afford 
dowry, don't want to reduce standard of living ...) wants to abort the foetus, and say 
- that's a crime, that's murder. The fact that Mala wants to abort only a female 
foetus may be tautological for its only the female baby which will lead to economic 
decline in her life (in her perspective). 

If women are forced by their family to abort their female foetus, its clear that its a 
crime. Its equivalent to traffic in women. 

But if a mother voluntarily decides to do so (and it happens just as often) then is 
she protected by the same liberal right that we grant (if we do, that is) Samantha? If 
not, should we not think a bit more about what kind of right we want to grant Samantha 
in Massachusetts? For Kant's sake.  

Santanu-da.  


> 
> From: Saurav Pathak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2002/09/19 Thu AM 07:32:52 EDT
> To: Santanu Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Foeticide slur on posh Delhi / From ToI
> 
> on second thoughts, i dont think that quite solves the dilemma.
> because it is not possible to decouple individual choice from
> societal values cleanly.
> 
> 
> Thus spake Saurav Pathak:
> 
> +  
> +  
> +  
> +  Santanu Roy said on AssamNet:
> +  
> +  +  I have many questions: 
> +  +  
> +  +  Would a pro-choice point of view support selective choice in abortion? 
> +  
> +  this looks like a curious problem, but if one goes to first
> +  principles, then it is not.  pro-choice is the right of individuals
> +  to make a choice against societal norms.  selective abortion in
> +  india is a result of societal norms.  parents decide not to have a 
> +  female child because of societal pressures. therefore, a pro-choice 
> +  advocate can argue that selective abortion is the result of a lack of 
> +  choice.  
> +  
> +  -- 
> +  saurav
> 
> -- 
> saurav
> 

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