Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 08:32:00 -0600
To: "office" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Devashis Chatterjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DISBANDING OF ILR TASK FORCE
Cc: "S.G. Vombatkere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrRiverlink Moderator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, aGOPAL KRISHNA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, chandrakant thatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "V.B. Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrVIJAY KUMAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrUMA SHANKARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrSHEKHAR SINGH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrSHAMA PERVEEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ilrS. JANAKARAJAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrRAVINDRANATH Assam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrRAVINDER SINGH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ilrRAMASWAMY R. IYER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrPRASHANT BHUSHAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrKirankumar Vissa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ilrK.C.\ Sivaramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrJAYANTA BANDYOPADHYAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrHIMANSHU THAKKAR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ilrDr.SUDHIRENDAR SHARMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ilrDr.CHANDAN\ MAHANTA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ilrDr. A.LATHA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrDINESH KUMAR MISHRA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrDAMJI BHAI GADA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ilrBIKSHAM GUJJA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Happy new year Mr. Pandit.
Thanks for forwarding the note from WWF about the efficacy of tanks ( ponds). I have not had a chance to reply to that yet, but hope to one of these days.
Just a short query today:
* Would you mind sharing with us ( if you know, that is) why the PFR's on the proposed riverlinking routes are still not made public?
Or am I mistaken? That is they are available, and I am misinformed? I read in Gen Vombatkare's note that it is still not on the Internet as ordered by the Supreme Court. But how about the hard-copies?
As I mentioned earlier I am particularly interested in the Manas Teesta and Brahmaputra Teesta (?) links.
This is for everyone:
Sudhir's note also brings up another question: What do the people do if the govt. defies the SC verdict and either dilly-dallies or otherwise finds ways to evade the order? I have not heard of any minister being ordered to prison yet for example, for defying the SC.
Is it 'eat-cake' for the people, or is there some recourse, I mean in an absence of a whistle-blower ?
cm
At 12:46 AM -0500 1/2/05, office wrote:Dear Shri Devashis Chatterjee,
1: It so happens that I am using the mail box of the IWRS-Delhi Center, which has the name "office". But I ALWAYS do write my name, so that it doesn't become an anonymous mail from IWRS mail-box.
2: Whether what I write has the approval of IWRS-DC's AGM, is for IWRS-DC AGM to worry about.
3: Let us for a moment presume that "Chetan Pandit" is a pseudo-name, or a robot, or a computer program, or a ghost, what does it matter ? What is the proof that a Chetan Pandit, an IWRS, (or for that matter a Devashis Chatterjee) really exist ?
4: Actually all e-mails are anonymous, because we still do not use digital signatures in day-to-day emails. It will take me 5 minutes to create a phony account [EMAIL PROTECTED] or indiatimes or rediffmail or some mail box where the name is still available, and write mails that SEEM TO COME FROM real Devashis Chatterjee (assuming one really exists).
Likewise you can do the same and create a phony chetanpandit@ some or other .com account and write mails that SEEM TO COME FROM real Chetan Pandit (assuming one really exists)
So ?
I suggest you focus on the content, rather than on the wrapper.
As regards your remark that the debate is now entering really interesting stage, there is no debate and therefore the question of it entering any stage does not arise.
The first requirement of a debate is that each participant can be held accountable for what he/she proposes; for only then will people think carefully before taking positions.
If the executive goes ahead with river valley projects and if these don't work as well as expected, then of course the executive will be held responsible. And if the executive - under pressure from activists - abandons river valley projects and then there is food shortage, will the activists be held responsible ? No. It is still the executive who will be held responsible.
Activists are not accountable for what they say/ write. This enables them to take positions that "look good" - to become darlings of the international community - without worrying whether their positions "work well".
THIS is the reason why there has been very little meaningful debate on ILR, and this how it will continue to be. What you are witnessing between me and Shri. Vombatkere is just a bit of good natured fun. For your kind information, we both have been through this before, it did not lead to any thing substantial then, and it will not lead to any thing substantial now.
yours sincerely Chetan Pandit
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