Dear C'da & Barua You are both very good debaters, and I think netters like myself can learn a lot from your ideas and possible solutions vis-a-vis Assam.
Having said that, I sense some sort of disconnect (to put it mildly). I may have been guilty of this as well, but never done intentionally. This forum, as we all know, is great for exchange of ideas. I trust we will still be able to achieve those from healthy exchanges. Some observations, IMHO: I come with the view when discussing topics of public nature, it is never meant to be personal. I assume all netters here have the best interests of Assam/NE in their minds. I seriously doubt if any of us have any 'hidden agenda' and would be surprised if someone did. In the general sense, we all have a stake in what happens in Assam/NE. We all have relatives and loved ones there to begin with. If things go right, we share in the happiness, else we worry. C'da, again, I did seriously think Barua's question was a good one. If I thought otherwise then I would have certainly said so (or kept quiet). So, I wasn't trying to spin it at all. If however, the question happens to be irksome, I guess, Barua could clarify it (I think he already has), else frame the question some other way. While, I would like the discussions here to be more productive than just academic, I would cringe at the thought of ideas, arguments and counter-arguments just being wasted. Look forward to really great ideas, healthy and lively discussions from everyone. Thanks -- Ram --- Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Correct me if I am wrong, Barua, but basically I > felt > > the question was looking for some introspection > from > > the NE. > > Dear Ram: > My question, as I have explained, was basically just > a question to analyse > the reasons behind something good which I saw > happening in India. That a > Medical College in India is opening branches outside > India is a good news to > me. It shows that in spite of all the bad news some > people are doing > something good. And we need to recognise that. My > intention of putting that > question was not to challenge Assam "Why Assam > cannot do it if the South can > do it." or ita was was "a contrived one designed to > lead to a desired > answer." No that was not the case. We must look at > things objectively. If > we try to read too much motives behind a questioner, > we cannot procedd in a > democratic and scientific manner. > For the prsent state of affairs, there are many > historical and cultural > factors behind these. We need to analyse and discuss > these. But as you have > rightly stated, the question is important because it > make us ask several > questions. Why the NE is not doing well as the South > may be a corolary > question and need to be analysied not in a > challenging manner but rather > objectively. But my question was basically not > meant for that. If at all, > my question was to show that GOOD things are > happening in India whcih was > questioned by Chandan in an earlier e-mail where he > stated that : > > > But it helps to see when the GOOD is DOING well, > is succeeding, > > making a difference. If the good are only good at > FAILING, do you > > think it will be copied? > > I thought my question will help people to see that > there are cases where > GOOD is DOING well in India and Assam should rather > try to copy these > instead of copying Shiv Sena with formation of Oxom > Xena (I think 'litikai' > Assam is still writing 'Sena' to satisfy mainland > India). Today I have seen > AASU is trying to control moral issues in Assam TV. > Is it something they are > trying to copy from Shiv Sena or Islamic > Fundamentalist? I don't know. But > my pray is : God save Assam!!! > > RB/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ram Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chan Mahanta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Barua25" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[email protected]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Assam] Educational Institutions in > India > > > > Dear C'da, > > > > I think there has been too much reading into the > > question that Barua asked and basically missing > the > > forest for the trees, > > >Why the South seems to be better disciplined in > > >educational institutions in India specially in > > >Medicine? > > > > Correct me if I am wrong, Barua, but basically I > felt > > the question was looking for some introspection > from > > the NE. The premise being that the South which has > had > > similar problems of OVERCOMING the influence of > the > > Hindi-wallas (like the NE) has made more progress > and > > the NE states have not. > > > > > Better disciplined than what? Assam, Bihar, > Delhi, > > > Bengal, Andamans > > > > You forgot to add universities in Brazil & > Portugal? > > -:) > > > > Obviously, the question was meant toward the NE > states > > as this net's primary focus is the NE (and Assam > in > > particular). Bihar & Delhi don't count (they are > the > > Hindi belt). I am not even sure if there is a > > university in the Andamans. > > Bengal, we can take into consideration. But it has > > been unique in the sense that it was and has been > the > > gateway to the NE. The English realized it and so > did > > their successors. > > > > Again, this is NOT a competition between the South > & > > the NE (or even the other med schools). So, > singling > > out Manipal is not what we should be looking for. > > Manipal is just an example, and it is just that. > > > > So, let me try and ask you a question here: > > > > What are the reasons the NE states are lagging in > > development /growth behind other states like > > Maharastra, TN, AP, Karnataka, Kerala? In > answering > > this question, if you can only confine you answer > to > > the responsibilities the State Govt. (say Assam), > the > > people, the student unions and the insurgent > groups > > have it will be great. > > > > I have not listed a state like Bihar (which I > think > > lags behind every state). Now, you may ask why do > we > > need to compare? I think it is good to so. That > way we > > will atleast know, how partial the Center has been > to > > a state like Karnataka. What special favors did > > Karnataka get that Assam has not? Was that a > reason > > for Karnatak's progress? > > > > Hopefully, I have crossed all the ts and dotted > the > > Is. > > If not, I will try and do a better job if the > question > > is overly broad (or immature)-:). > > > > -- Ram > > > > > > --- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Rajen, Ram and Rajib: > > > > > > > > > Here is my response to Rajen's leading question: > > > > > > > > > >Question: Why the South seems to be better > > > disciplined in educational > > > >institutions in India specially in >Medicine? > > > > > > > > > *** The premise of the question is patently > untrue. > > > > > > Better disciplined than what? Assam, Bihar, > Delhi, > > > Bengal, Andamans? > > > > > > > > > There were fine medical colleges in India going > back > > > a century. The > > > premier ones were in Kolkata and Mumbai. Later > came > > > AIIMS, Chandigarh > > > Medical College etc. They are not the South. Of > > > course there were > > > good schools in the South too. I don't remember > the > > > name, but one is > > > from Andhra. > > > > > > These have been there far far longer than > Manipal. > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page � Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Assam mailing list [email protected] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
