> In the project management world, to spend the budgeted money and get results > for it, the project must remain on schedule and the projected work for a > given period must get done
Of course, all these are scheduled by Delhi, hoping that the states will follow PM, and 'return' any unused money, and account for every rupee. But, I digress, some netter would have us believe that its New Delhi wo is at fault for expecting GOA to follow PM rules. And of course. bandhs do have an affect on projects. But why worry, its 'sorkori poisa' and it ain't going out from any kharkhowa's pocket, is it? --Ram On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 16:05:57 -0800 (PST), Dilip/Dil Deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you guys see a link between frequent Bandhs and returning money because > it couldn't be spent? If there are Bandhs, people do not work and when > people do not work, the projects fall behind. Despite the loopholes that > exist in Assam, payment cannot be made for progress not made. Thus at the > end of the year, despite one's best plans, money remains unspent and it goes > back. > In the project management world, to spend the budgeted money and get results > for it, the project must remain on schedule and the projected work for a > given period must get done. In the private industry when rain or snow holds > up work, extra effort is made as soon as wether lets up just so that the > schedule can be maintained. Does anyone work extra hours after a Bandh in > assam to make up the lost production? I don't think so. > Dilip Deka > > Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C'da, > > > 2: The other crucial mistake you keep making :-), is equating Assam > > Govts. to the people of Assam. Just because they go vote means > > little. An uninformed or misinformed or manipulated polity cannot > > make an effective democracy. > > A good point, but seriously flawed, nevetheless. > > The people (mostly rural) of Assam/NE have launched 3 or 4 major > agitations that has caught worldwide attention. > > Do you mean to tell us that this polity is uninformed, and impotent? > How could such a polity (as you described) be capable of such > large-scale movements? > > When the people of Assam are given good leadership, they can and have > made their voices clear, and, the powers that be, have yielded. > > But, what Barua points out, is that, EVEN though the people have > proven time & again that they have the POWER and CAPACITY to launch > these major agitations, they have somehow given a pass to the GOA or > GOI. > > Basically, just ignored what the GOA/GOI is doing or not doing. They > seem to have this sense of sheer apathy, totally uninterested in > things that are paramount for the development of Assam. > > So, whats the solution here? I think (correct me if I am wrong, > Barua), what Barua is hinting at is that people hold some serious > accountability from the GOI/GOA. > > Like in the case why the GOA returns money unspent (for > infrastructure) every year to the Center? > The GOA may, in all fairness, have some excuse, but what are they? > Why are the people NOT asking? whats wrong? > > If these same people are NOT willing to question the GOA, then why do > they complain about the Center ignoring Assam? > I can picture the Delhi wallahs thinking - 'They wanted extra funds, > so we allocated, and they keep returning the money back'. Maybe its > better to allocate the money to some sate like UP? > > And how can they do this without resorting to bandhs, agitations or > insurgencies etc? They can form public awareness groups, which should > comprise of the cross-section of the people. Such groups can actually > weild political power and make sure that whatever the GOA does is in > the best interest of Assam, and make sure that GOA representatives in > Delhi also do likewise. > > --Ram > > On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:16:33 -0600, Chan Mahanta wrote: > > You make a very good point Rajen. > > > > The only problems I see in your argument are: > > > > 1: The fact of Assam Govts. past and present 'working within the > > system' that you good folks so ardently support preserving :-), > > disabling them from demanding international price for its crude. > > > > For if they challenge the system that create them and sustain them, > > they cannot exist. > > > > 2: The other crucial mistake you keep making :-), is equating Assam > > Govts. to the people of Assam. Just because they go vote means > > little. An uninformed or misinformed or manipulated polity cannot > > make an effective democracy. You know that well, but do not consider > > in your arguments. For if it did, the system of exacting > > accountability would have worked, that consequences would have > > mattered, and Indian society would not be where it is today. > > > > c > > > > PS: > > > > > >Part of this GOI invests > > >in Gujarat and part in Chennai, and the rest, at present Manmohon Singh > and > > >Sonia Gandhi distributes among themselves > > > > *** Comments like these do not add any value to your points. Just > > thought I would point it out :-). Those are expressions of extreme > > frustration, that's all. > > > > > > At 12:33 AM -0600 2/27/05, Barua25 wrote: > > >Chandan: > > >I know you would not like my Assam Bundh economy for the Bangladesh > fence. I > > >know you don't like to discuss any problems for Assam till the day when > GOI > > >will give the key of sovereignty of Assam.. > > >But unfortunately we donot want to wait that long, and I have more > > >economical news for you. > > >This is another way how the Assamese can build a fence on the border: > From > > >its oil. > > > > > >At present, Assam produces about 18 Million bbl oil per year (my > estimate). > > >The present price of oil is about $50/bbl. So Assam earns for its big > > >brother GOI, about $900 million dollars per year. (Part of this GOI > invests > > >in Gujarat and part in Chennai, and the rest, at present Manmohon Singh > and > > >Sonia Gandhi distributes among themselves!!!). > > > > > >All Assam need to do is to demand that at least 10% of that money (in > > >addition to its present royalty) be kept in a separate Worl Bank fund to > > >build a fence on the Bangladesh border. That way, every year Assam would > > >have got about $90 million for the fence. This is equal to about Rs. 400 > > >Crores a year. If Assam does not know how to build a fence, they can > always > > >ask the Israelis. > > > > > >Now why Assam does not do it? Don't say GOI is treating Assam like a > > >stepchild? > > > > > >Rajen Barua > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Chan Mahanta" > > >To: "Barua25" ; > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:06 AM > > >Subject: Re: [Assam] Is Assam, the Land of Bandhs? > > > > > > > > >> Rajen: > > >> > > >> > > >> >That is about 900 kilometer of fencing the Bangladesh border a year if > we > > >> >estimate that 1 Km of fencing will cost 1 croes of Rs. Looking at the > > >map, I > > >> >donot think the Bangladesh-Assam border is in fact that long. > > >> > > >> *** You finally explained why GoI is derelict in its duty to protect > > >> the borders: Assam Bandhs. > > >> > > >> > > >> You are getting too upset again my friend. Take it easy. I am sure > > >> Assm Netters understand and respect your sentiments, even without > > >> having to be presented with such arguments :-). > > >> > > >> c > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> At 5:54 PM -0600 2/21/05, Barua25 wrote: > > >> > > Bandhs cost Assam 900 cr a year > > >> > > > >> >That is about 900 kilometer of fencing the Bangladesh border a year if > we > > >> >estimate that 1 Km of fencing will cost 1 croes of Rs. Looking at the > > >map, I > > >> >donot think the Bangladesh-Assam border is in fact that long. > > >> > > > >> >Barua > > >> > > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > > >> >From: "Ram Sarangapani" > > >> >To: > > >> >Cc: "Barua25" > > >> >Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:57 AM > > >> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Is Assam, the Land of Bandhs? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> Here is a Rediff.com article (2003) of how much Assam loses in > bandhs. > > >> >> Read on, its interesting. Wonder what it be in today's Rs. > > >> >> _________________________________________________ > > > > >> Bandhs cost Assam 900 cr a year > > >> >> > > >> >> Vinayak Ganapathy in Guwahati | March 26, 2003 23:03 IST > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> That Assam and other north eastern states are notorious for bandhs > and > > >> >> strikes for even minor, unimportant reasons, is a well-documented > > >> >> fact. But no effort was made so far to quantify the monteray losses > > >> >> that the states suffer due to these bandhs. Now thanks to the > > >> >> Federation of Industries and Commerece of North Eastern Region, > there > > >> >> is some idea of the staggering losses suffered in the state. > > >> >> > > >> >> Assam loses an estimated Rs 900 crore annually because of bandhs, > the > > >> >> FINER study says. The study covered bandhs in Assam from April 2001 > > >> >> to March 2002. > > >> >> > > >> >> There were nine statewide bandhs, 13 regional bandhs (Upper > > >> >> Assam/Lower Assam and central Assam) and 36 district bandhs during > > > > >> this period. > > >> >> > > >> >> "A daylong bandh means a loss of Rs 41.14 crore and poor states like > > >> >> Assam cannot afford this luxury," FINER president, Abhijit Baruah, > > >> >> said. He appealed to all organisations to opt for other ways of > > >> >> registering their protest against any injustice. > > >> >> > > >> >> Citing an example of how the government incurs losses during bandhs, > > >> >> the report says a single bandh can cost the exchequer Rs 20 crore. > The > > >> >> government allocates Rs 410.95 crore towards salaries of its > employees > > >> >> per month but loses crucial mandays because of bandhs. > > >> >> > > >> >> The worst affected sectors are mining and quarrying, manufacturing, > > >> >> transport and communication, hotel, banking and public > administration. > > >> >> > > >> >> The report also states that the younger generation, especially those > > >> >> born after 1979, has been deprived of celebrating Independence and > > >> >> Republic Day for the last 23 years due to bandhs. > > >> >> > > >> >> "Apart from other factors contributing to the economic backwardness > of > > >> >> the state, the frequent bandhs called by various organisations in > > >> >> different parts of the state during the last few years are very much > > >> >> responsible for the tardy growth of domestic income of the state. > > >> >> Assam is now a relatively poor and economically backward state as > > >> >> compared to other states of the country. The Economic Survey showed > > >> >> that in respect of per capita income in 2001, the status of Assam is > > >> >> 27th out of the 29 states of the country, with only Orissa and Bihar > > >> >> behind," Baruah said. > > >> >> ____ > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:04:25 -0500, Prasenjit Chetia > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > When privatised the same accountant will run to office even of > > >bandhs. > > >> >> > It is a mixture of individual attitude and GOI promotion. > > >> >> > Non-Cooperation after all was a tool through which we won > > >> >> > Independence. The success of bandhs lies in the attitude and sense > > >of > > >> >> > judgement of the public. It works, no matter why; that's why there > > >are > > >> > > > so many bandhs. And the layman is always short sighted. Why do > the > > >> >> > learned keep quiet too ? > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Prasenjit > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:07:50 -0600, Barua25 > > >wrote: > > >> >> > > I will tel you how some other people like the bundh: > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > (A) I asked a Jorhat shop keeper how much they are affected by > > >these > > >> >bundhs. > > >> >> > > He said. Are you kidding? We like it. This is why: > > >> >> > > Mine is a grocery shop. If I close for a day, I gain the > > >following: > > >> >> > > No 1) I don't have to pay my 3 shop keepers for that day. > > >> >> > > No2) I get one day's 'suti'. I can work in my home. > > >> >> > > No3) In fact I don't incur any loss in sales too. Because, the > > >> >customers > > >> >> > > will buy everything they need on the next day anyway. It does > not > > >> >matter if > > >> >> > > they buy it on Monday or Tuesday to me. It does not affect my > > >monthly > > >> >sales > > >> >> > > at all. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > (B) Now listen to why big companies like Oil India love it? > (They > > >> >won't say > > >> >> > > they love it though). > > >> >> > > One senior accountant in Oil India explained to me. "Mr Barua > you > > > > >won't > > >> >> > > believe how much the comany saves in one day's bundh?" > > >> >> > > I asked how? > > >> >> > > He said bundh means, companies thousnads of contractors buses to > > >> >worksites > > >> >> > > are stopped which means the company does not have to pay > anything > > >for > > >> >that > > >> >> > > day to the bus contractors. He estimated that in 10 days bundh, > > >the > > >> >campany > > >> >> > > save so many (I forgot the figure) in such saving. Plus, the > > >Medical > > >> >is > > >> >> > > closed which means additional savings. > > >> >> > > I asked, what about oil production. Does not OIL loose revenue. > > >> >> > > Oh, that is taken care of by GOI. They cannot stop essential oil > > >> >production. > > >> >> > > So we get our revenue anyway. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > What I found out was that the bundh affects the small (mostly > > >> >Assamese) > > >> >> > > contractors, the private workers (mostly Assamese) and the > public > > > > >(mostly > > >> >> > > Assamese). > > >> >> > > For everybody else, bundh is a boon in the land of 'lahe lahe'. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Another thing. It is very easy to announce a bundh in Assam. If > > >> >someone > > >> >> > > telephone the Newspaper office that we are such and such from > > >ULFA > > >> >and we > > >> >> > > are announcing a bundh on such and such day please publish the > > >news. > > >> >> > > Hobo Diok, the answer will come.. > > >> >> > > That is all. The rest of the bundh is done by the news media. > They > > >> >will > > >> >> > > publishize everywhere that on such and such day ULFA has > announced > > >a > > >> >Bundh. > > >> >> > > There is no ULFA to monitor the bundh and none evebn to verify. > > >But > > >> >the > > >> >> > > bundh will happen very punctually as if everybody were waiting > for > > >it. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > I say way to go AASU and ULFA. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Hobo Diok. > > >> >> > > Joi Ai Oxom > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Barua. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> > > From: "Ram Sarangapani" > > >> >> > > To: > > > >> >> > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 11:06 PM > > >> >> > > Subject: [Assam] Is Assam, the Land of Bandhs? > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Among other things, Assam, it seems has become the land of > > >bandhs. > > >> >> > > > Every political group, student body, karmachari unions call > for > > >> >> > > > frequent bandhs. > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > This month there has already been one bandh on the 14th, now > > >here is > > >> >> > > > another one. (i may have missed one or two here and there). > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > While these different groups may have legitimate grievances, > it > > >does > > >> >> > > > seem 'nijor bhorit khutar maara' attitude. > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > I am not sure if anyone has calculated the tremendous loss to > > >the > > >> >> > > > economy at each bandh. How much do these cost the state in > terms > > >of > > >> >> > > > money, productivity, education & commerce? > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > The other question is, does a call for bandh actually resolve > > >any of > > >> >> > > > the grievances for which the bandh is called for? > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > DD brought up the story of how Govt. employees enjoy a > 'bandh'. > > >But > > >> >> > > > what about the rest of the populace. > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Either they have become immune to such calls, and take such > > >calls as > > >> >a > > >> >> > > > day off, or they just helpless? Do people think only in the > > >short > > >> >run? > > >> >> > > > Is the long term too bleak, so they live for the present? > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > I don't know the answers to these, but I do know for a state > > >that is > > >> > > > > > struggling on many different fronts, the last thing Assam > needs > > >is > > >> >> > > > being cut off at the knees every time a bandh is called. In > > >fact, > > >> >its > > >> >> > > > tantamount of doing the state no service at all. > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Does anyone have any stats on how these bandhs affect the > state, > > >and > > >> >> > > > how many Assam averages on a yearly basis? > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > Anyway, here is a news itel from the Tribune, about yet > another > > >> >bandh. > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > --Ram > > >> >> > > > ________________________________ > > >> >> > > > Adivasi body calls Assam bandh today > > >> >> > > > By A Staff Reporter > > >> >> > > > GUWAHATI, Feb 20 - The All Adivasi Students' Association of > > >Assam > > >> >> > > > (AASAA) has given a call for a 12-hour Assam bandh tomorrow > > > > >demanding > > >> >> > > > scheduled tribe status for the Adivasi community. In a release > > >here > > >> >> > > > today, Justin Lakra and David Horo, the president and > assistant > > >> >> > > > general secretary respectively of the AASAA, said that over > the > > >> >years, > > >> >> > > > the Congress had been betraying the Adivasi people on the > issue > > >of > > >> >> > > > granting the status of scheduled tribes. The release said that > > >the > > >> >> > > > Congress Government is also not concerned about the problems > > >faced > > >> >by > > >> >> > > > the tea labourers. > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > The AASAA said that the Congress Government, just before the > > >Moran > > >> >> > > > by-polls, promised to give appointments to 80 youths of tea > > >tribes, > > >> >> > > > but the promise was never fulfilled. During the finalisation > of > > >the > > >> >> > > > boundary of the Bodoland Territorial Autonomous Council also, > > >the > > >> >> > > > Government never tried to protect the interests of the Adivasi > > >> >> > > > community. > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:31:59 +0530, Babul Gogoi > > > > > >> >wrote: > > >> >> > > > > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:41:09 -0600, Ram Sarangapani > > >> > > > >> >> > > wrote: > > >> >> > > > > > What do netters think? Would netters like to add/delete > from > > >the > > >> >list > > >> >> > > here? > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > --Ram > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > A Few Tips to AASU > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > The All Assam Students Union may regain its lost > popularity > > >if > > >> >it > > >> >> > > > > > takes a decision on the following points: > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > a) To give up the idea of forming the Asom Sena, > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > b) Give up Assam bandh/local bandh calls for the next few > > >years, > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > c) Opposes all bandh calls given by other parties to > > >facilitate > > >> >the > > >> >> > > > > > students to concentrate on studies, > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > d) Creates village-level task forces to see that academic > > >> >atmosphere > > >> >> > > > > > in educational institutions is properly maintained, > teachers > > >> >attend > > >> >> > > > > > classes by giving up politics and private business > concerns, > > >> >courses > > >> >> > > > > > are completed before the examinations and all classes > start > > >> >> > > > > > immediately after declaration of the results. > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > e) Raise funds for the poor schools to buy Computers, etc., > > >> >instead of > > >> >> > > > > political expenses. > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Prasanna Kumar Sharma, > > >> >> > > > > > 3, Narikalbari, 2nd by lane, > > >> >> > > > > > Guwahati-24. > > >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> >> > > > > > Assam mailing list > > >> >> > > > > > [email protected] > > >> >> > > > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Mailing list FAQ: > > >> >> > > > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > > >> >> > > > > > To unsubscribe or change options: > > >> >> > > > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > -- > > >> >> > > > > Babul Gogoi > > >> >> > > > > http://xguy2k.blogspot.com > > >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> >> > > > > Assam mailing list > > >> >> > > > > [email protected] > > >> >> > > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Mailing list FAQ: > > >> >> > > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > > >> >> > > > > To unsubscribe or change options: > > >> >> > > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > >> >> > > > Assam mailing list > > >> >> > > > [email protected] > > >> >> > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > Mailing list FAQ: > > >> >> > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > > >> >> > > > To unsubscribe or change options: > > >> >> > > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > >> >> > > Assam mailing list > > >> >> > > [email protected] > > >> >> > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > Mailing list FAQ: > > >> >> > > http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html > > === message truncated === _______________________________________________ Assam mailing list [email protected] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
