Re: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction

muktikam phukan Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:15:49 -0700

Thats really interesting! But one thing confused me.

"The word pul is not there in Hindi but in Bengali."

All my Hindi speaking friends and even people giving road directions when u enquire about locations in North India call the bridge "PUL". So, I've consulted the hindi dictionary. And infact the word "PUL" for bridge is not there. The correct word is "Setu". Maybe they use the arabic (urdu) word "pul" colloquially. Interesting.

Muktikam Phukan

Barua25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jokai is also called jakoi, is not it? I think it is good Assamese word. I wonder if the word is in other Indian languages.

That brings us to the question of the other word; SUK. Jokai-suk, Doha-Bora Suk, Hazarika Suk etc.

The word suk, I could not find in Hindi or Bengali but only in Assamese. The Arabic has a similar word suk meaning bazar. I am not sure if the Assamese suk came from the Arabic direct. In Jorhat we have a market called Sok Bazar. This Sok I think is same as Arabic Suk meaning Bazar. Although in Assamese the meaning of the word suk written as 'corner', I find it hard to believe that Jokai Suk, Doha Bora Suk really mean 'corner'. At one time these words might have meant 'bazar' or 'hat'. It is possible that the Arabic Suk has connection to the Assamese suk. Another such interesting Assamese word is the word pul (bridge). (Xi pulot bohi ase). Th! e word pul is not there in Hindi but in Bengali. Also it is in Persian. In Assamese there many such words of Arabic origin which are not found in other Indian languages. Incidently all the following Assamese words are of Arabic origin, These are probably in many other Indian languages: nogod, joma, khoros, khobor, kagoj, kolom, kitab, mosgul, hajir, ohmok, hakim, rokom, dewai, masul, khotom, julum, khali, khalas, malik, sotur, tarikh, son (year), nojor, harami etc

Interesting!!

Rajen Barua.

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Subject: RE: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction

         I want to add something in this regard ...

         'Jokai' is a familiar name in Assam. If you go through the assamese newspapers regularly you will

         come across many places called 'Jokai' situated in different parts of Assam.

         I personally know a place called 'Jokai' ( including a village and a big reserve forest called 'Jokai reserve forest' ), which is

         around 10 Km away from Dibrugarh towards Burhidihing river.

         Every one must be knowing the company called 'Jokai India Limited' .



         C.R.Baruah

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Subject: [Assam] Re: ref: my introduction

Welcome Utpal. Our paths crossed before. I am sure you remember. Congrats. again on your fine efforts.

Thanks for correcting me. I had a vague idea that there indeed is a place called Jokaisuk, but was never clear on where it stood. Turns out it is less than ten miles from my birth-'muluk' :-). But like Ram suggests, it can become a generic but quintessentially kharkhowa, obscure and humble locale, that many of us can claim our roots to. In that it is a band of honor that we proudly wear.

Best,

c-da

At 5:36 PM +0100 8/18/05, utpal borpujari wrote:

Hi all. Just a few things:

1. "Actually Jokaisuk is a mythical 'muluk', from which both Tilok Daktor and myself, as well as a host of other kharkhowas can and do hail."

- Chandan-da, Jokaisuk, as far as I know (correct me if I am wrong) is not a 'mythical muluk'. In fact, quite contrary to the image the name gives, it is located right on the national highway between Amguri and Sivasagar, before one reaches Gaurisagar.

2. "I thinik our journaluist new comer friend is 'bhoyote touba touba khaise'. - RAJEN"

Bhoi khowa nai. I am actually quite excited that what I thought was just a mere introductory mail from me, and thereby obviously my first mail to the group, has led to such an interesting discussion.

3. Manoj-da (of Assam Association, Delhi) and Shantikam Hazarika : Thanks for mentioning about my winning the national Best film critic Swarna Kamal award in 2003 and being a jury member at the national film awards this year. This kind of constant encouragement helps in thinking of doing something better.

4. A request to everyone in the group: unless there is some kind of rule about this, please delete all the previous mails (except may be the mail to which one is replying to) while hitting the reply button. Otherwise, this makes the mailers very voluminous, with the same mails being appended at the bottom of each mail repetatively.

- Utpal



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