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From: nalin behari Dev Choudhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue Aug 2, 2005  2:56 am
Subject: Javed Akhtar's attack on Assamese woman 

Dear Assamese Friends,

Please see the photo gallery (on front page) on the
following daily of 2nd Aug, 05 (today). It is really
untolerable and protest must be there against such
remarks and to change the view of Assam to the people
of India. It is also very shameful that the leading
media of Assam are not giving coverage (or rather
importance) to such insult to Assamese people.

Go to the link:
http://www.northeasttribune.com/index.htm

Being an Assamese or from Assam, u must go thro' this
news and also forward to others from Assam.

If one is unable to visit the site, see the text
below. The photo is not attached here.

The news goes : "Members of Asom Jatiyatabadi Yuba
Chatra Parishad (AJYCP) burning the effigy of noted
lyricist Javed Akhtar in Guwahati on Monday.
Akhtar came under fire after his alleged remark on
Assamese women in a private TV channel on July 19,
"Assamese women are known for frequently changing
husbands and can be purchased in any city of the
country".

- from Dilip Datta, IIT Kanpur, India

Please pass on to others also.

Nalin

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From: "Bikram M. Baruah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun Aug 7, 2005 7:28am
Subject: Re: [ratne] Javed Akhtar's attack on Assamese women

Raiz,
Lets face up to the reality. Read the following article in TOI.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msi
d-1193772,curpg-1.cms
These are the poor uneducated yough girls who are becoming victims of
the shameful greeds of their own guandians - parents and ealder
relatives.
 
I personally know atleast one case where one from a village near
Rangia in Kamrup district sold his own daughter to a Bihari
'ferriwalla' for Rs10000. Later, the poor girl somehow escaped and
took selter in her uncle's house in Guwahati.
 
Anyway, I believe it is more important to realize the ground reality
rather than to investigate what somebody really said in a live TV
show. And, as these shameful incidents are really occuring, we need to
be done something urgently.
 
Regards,
Bikram M. Baruah

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From: Nironkush Rick Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:51pm
Subject: Re: [ratne] Javed Akhtar's attack on Assamese woman and Rick

Right, let's try and get this into perspective. Have the unconfirmed
remarks of Javed Akhtar made the Oxomiya any more minority than they
are today? Would they make more Bodos militants? Perhaps worsen the
immigration? No, but having a border fence and tighter controls would
have helped. My point is, let us decide a reaction to an incident on
the basis of the actual impact of the matter not on face-value
excitement.

I would support a case against India's cenral government for loss of
earnings as well as prestige to the state of Assam due to not treating
Assam's peoples (plural intended) with the situation-specific
sensitivity
they deserve. Where is the Indo-Bangla border fence for example? Why
do
police forces have special powers with regard to shooting or arresting
that mainland states do not? After all, our people can't be THAT bad.
The problems Mr Pathak describes are - in my belief - because the
Hindi
lobby and northeast India's south-cum-southeast Asian combine of
intricately
diverse culture do not get along too well, perhaps because of the
former's
arrogance, and, also because Assam hasn't had charismatic leaders for
a
while. India's look-east policy is too little, too late.

Anyway. I agree with everything about Assam's fact-of-the-matter
issues
Mr Pathak writes. However, I'm hoping Mr Pathak is not suggesting all
this
we spend valuable legal time and expense on some supposed silly
remarks.
Freedom of expression ought to be defined as liberally as possible
(this
can have its own down-sides, but is still more dignified).

May I leave everyone with some of the many thoughts I ponder on:

I believe Bodo's, so also Rabha's, Hajongs, etc are Assamese by way of
being Oxombaxi since time immemorial (or so). Assam is a mini-India
inside
India. This heterogeneity was not understood by local and central
political
leaders after Indian independence. Moreover plains Assamese have
seemingly
exuded the arrogance that they are the rightful Assamese and the
others are
perhaps fringe communities. Most of the disturbances (Bodo and similar
others)
actually boil down to that factor.

The mother of a Bodo friend specially made some Bodo rice liquor
(wrongly
termed rice beer) for me during my last trip to India. The quality of
the
produce would beat the best Japanese Niigata Sake anyday, although I
hold a
tremendous respect for Niigata's Sake brewers. But unlike Japan, you
would
find these folks embarassed rather than proud to talk about this. Do
have a
think about this.

With regard to Assam, there are many real issues to fight for on many
fronts:
cultural, political, etc. Given so much on our plate, I'll still hold
on to
the belief this Javed Akhtar matter - whether true or false - is
trivial
and we should continue to focus on loftier goals.

Sincere rgds,
Rick.

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From: Nironkush Rick Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:32pm
Subject: Re: [ratne] Javed Akhtar's attack on Assamese woman

Excuse the verbosity, couldn't resist responding... :)

--- Anup Konwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The fact that a long relationships in Britain or in Australia last
about
> couple of months and if lucky some years. People move on because
they either
> get bored or find that they are incompatible. The passion of getting
into a
> relationship is high without the commitment and compassion to make
it work,
> makes your observation correct about English women, probably!

I used to believe that. But it appears the problem has always been
everywhere.
The only difference about it in India is that dissatisfaction takes
the form
of hush-hush infidelity or mere tolerance (rather than love) hidden
inside a
happy-family pretence. On the other side of the coin, there are many
long
lasting relationships in the West too; of course they don't make the
gossip.

> That you have got a RICK inbetween a fantastic name like
Nironkush..Das. That
> you live like a Roman in Rome suffices the existence. But certain
principals
> in way of life, and in a culture dont change whereever you
go.Japanese,
> Russians, French dont speak english or change their names to suit
the global
> community and maintain their identity. That we were ruled by British
cant
> change the mass thinking we Indian or Assamese people have as a
culture.
> People may vary depending upon the school of thought or geography
they belong
> to.

Actually, Rick is both a Sanskrit and a Western name; it was in fact
the first
name I was given, not something I took up after settling abroad.
Anyway, my
name's spelt the way it is. The reason I won't change the rest of my
name to
Nironkux Dax has to do more with laziness rather than embarassment. My
contention is not at such cases, nor at those who choose to have
non-Assamese
names. My contenion is with that section of Assamese people who taint
the
pronunciation of Assamese names to render a Sankritised or Hindiised
twang when
introducing themselves abroad and seem to do so out of embarassment.
It is one
thing if I choose make my name Hindi sounding like Akshat, but it is
another
matter altogether if I'm named Lasit and I am embarassed to pronounce
it that
way. Miguel Alvarez does not have to become Michael Alvers to live in
England.
Embarassment to transliterate correctly is the issue at hand.

> So, if there is a reaction to Javed's comments, which I am following
through
> this forum, there is a reason for it and is justified.

I'm not sure if it's justified but somehow we have all contributed to
a nice
blog. I do pretty much agree with the rest of the matter you wrote, so
won't
blog any more. Now it's time _I_ moved on! :)

- Rick

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From: "Dilip Datta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:40am
Subject: Reg mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,
Since I registered in [EMAIL PROTECTED], I m receiving unlimited
bogus mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - in which I never
registered. Probably u people r also facing such problems. Already I
hav seen the writing of Saswati and Tridip. Go through the following
remedy:

No need to think how to unsubscribe it, simply block the add from
entering eny mail from it to your account. When u login into yahoo, u
will find "Mail Options" on the top right-most corner of your yahoo
page. Click there and then go to "Block Addresses". Here u can put the
email ids from which u don't want to receive any mail.

Hope that it will serve your purpose.

-Dilip Datta
Kanpur 





           

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