At 07:55 AM 12/19/2010 +1100, you wrote:
>On 19/12/2010 05:32 AM, john gilmore wrote:
>>In  the future "baseless", always an ugly term embodying a dubious pun, will 
>>need explanation.  It will be as helpful as a description of a modern 
>>automobile as "crankless".
>Seldom does one find John in error, and this one may be a language
>difference between Australian and USA usage, but I think most cars still
>have cranks  but not crank handles.
>
>Ken

Staying on off-topic for a moment; it is common usage in the US to refer to 
"cranking" the engine when trying to start it (even without a crank handle).

Mike


Michael Stack
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