FYI Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD
'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' Begin forwarded message: > From: Scott Ford <[email protected]> > Date: April 25, 2013, 11:17:03 AM EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: RACF service calls > Reply-To: Scott Ford <[email protected]> > > Russell: > > I agree with you 100% . This is the way I have also always worked. > We have a set of circumstances that are odd, to say the least. The comment > was wrongly made by another > vendor who shall we say remain nameless. I dont want to blame or point > fingers, I dont do that either. > > Most of this unfortunately isnt a technical issue , as much as a > misunderstanding of how the product (ours) works. > We pass RACF commands via the RACF API , service call Radmin,we pass the > Command as a image. > > So i knew how it worked i just wasnt sure if there > was something undocumented that this 'vendor' has seen or heard ....Thats why > I posted it here on the Listserv. I know > you guys from IBM are knowledgable and obivously know RACF. > Best Regard, > Scott J Ford > Software Engineer > http://www.identityforge.com/ > > > > ________________________________ > From: Russell D Hardgrove <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: RACF service calls > > > Scott, I am unaware that this is possible. I believe it is ONE > command... > > Re: "smoke" ----> When someone says things like this, try to NAIL down > specifics of WHY they think this. What supporting doc might they have? > Other than hearsay, of course. Just as in the legal system, hearsay is > just usually inadmissible (as any sort of proof in -our- world). > > > When I hear things like this I also am CURIOUS as to WHO said this. Not > so much on the forum (nor in this case) but in my DAY job when a customer > says 'so and so said' especially if that 'so and so' is from IBM, I try > to STOP false (or sometimes less than optimum info). > > Example: Years ago, I heard a (more than one actually) customer say: We > keep our backup RACF db a few cylinders smaller so IT will run out of > space first and so as to warn us.. Not a great idea. Why? Not having > them the exact SAME size removes the ability to SYNC them from each other, > using IRRUT200. Better idea. Run a periodic (daily is best) IRRUT200 > and use it's output (from MAP function I believe) to monitor DB percentage > used. I've seen customers who scrape (read via a pgm) the UT200 output > and after a threshold is met (DB is above a certain %) send out emails. > > I tracked DOWN this person (who had GIVEN them this idea) and asked them > to STOP making this recommendation. Unless, of course, they were willing > to carry MY beeper. :-bb > > > . > -------------------------------------------------- > Russ Hardgrove / RACF Lvl2 > IBM - z/OS Software Service > Dept. EC8A Remote > Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 > [email protected] 845-505-7204 > -------------------------------------------------- > "RACF: Guilty, until proven innocent !!" RdH 2004 > "RACF, praesumitur malus donec probetur bonus" RdH MMX > << Continually proving this (innocence) is not just a JOB, it's an > -ADVENTURE- :-b .. >> > ... > > > > From: Scott Ford <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], > Date: 04/24/2013 10:55 AM > Subject: RACF service calls > Sent by: RACF Discussion List <[email protected]> > > > > Guys: > > We currently use Radmin call to pass command images to RACF. Someone is > saying to use we can pass multiple RACF command to RACF for > execution in one call ? I didnt see this documented ..is this possible or > is someone blowing smoke > > Regards, > Scott J Ford > Software Engineer > http://www.identityforge.com/
