I'm not as fluently in speaking english as John Gilmore is, of course,
because I'm not an english native speaker, but that's exactly what I would
have answered to Mr. William Blair, too, if I could.

Of course, in my classes, which last 3 or 4 days, I only can teach the
very basis of z/OS, which are necessary to start with dump reading,
and the experience has to come from practicing. The participants who
really want to gain experience start reading all the dumps from their
department, which consists of some 50 developers - that is: a dump
every day. And there are some strange situations, when programs
write over the code of other programs etc. and the save areas are
all zeroed out - nice exercises.

Thanks,

Bernd


Am 26.07.2013 14:42, schrieb John Gilmore:
William Blair's post is in most respects a superb one.

There is, however, an important omissis.  I already had IBSYS
dump-reading skills; I learned to read OS dumps beginning with OS/PCP,
i.e., in a radically simpler world; I was able to come to terms with
increasing complexity incrementally, over many years; and I had others
to talk to about my perplexities.

'Learn it alone and unaided!' is now a counsel of despair.  If you
want to learn these skills you need to apprentice yourself, at least
part-time, to someone who already has them.  Find a situation in which
you can consult him or her several times a day, and make sure that he
or she  has something of a vocation for teaching.

I have found it possible to impart these skills to two inexperienced
but admittedly very able teenagers using such an apprenticeship
scheme.  In doing so I avoided introducing them to dump-reading aids
(other than hexadecimal calculators) until very late, but I did give
much attention to the many ways in which all IBM systems are similar,
to frequently encountered control-block chaining schemes, stacks,
pools, queues and unholy, impure mixtures of them.

I have not compared notes with anyone else who has imparted/taught
these skills successfully; but there are certainly other equally
viable ways to do so that differ in substantial detail from mine.  I
suspect, however, that the availability of a mentor or mentors is
crucial.  They figure centrally in other professional training
schemes, be they for surgeons or steamfitters.

Exclusively do-it-yourself schemes will fail; homo sapiens is too
short-lived a species; and preternatural dedication must anyway not be
expected or required.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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