Same here.

I learned on my own, under the tutelage of an expert in my first job, then 
spent 9 years at Amdahl taking their excellent courses and getting lots of 
practice on customer dumps.
Ended up as an instructor at Amdahl before things went awry with that company 
...

I believe that Techknowledge Corporation is the spin-off of the old Amdahl 
Edcuation group and still teaches updated versions of many of those internals 
and dump classes.

Joey Capps


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From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
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Subject: Re: 3 job openings for mainframe Assembler/C programmers, dump readers

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:59:49 -0500, William H. Blair wrote:

>Don V Nielsen asks:
>
>| Where might one one find good instruction on how to read a dump?
>
>For the most part, everybody I know that's any good at it got that way
>all on their own (they may have taken a class from IBM or Amdahl back
>when they were young and green, however...)

When I was getting started as a Cobol programmer in 1970, I was given a paper 
with a title something like "Newspaper approach to dump reading".
It was based upon a journalist's basic questions, who, what, when, where, why 
and how, that are necessary in any investigation.  That document helped me get 
started reading SYSABEND dumps of my simple programs.  I have no idea where it 
came from, but I wonder if it might have come from SHARE.

Then, as an Amdahl SE, I attended classes in MVS internals and diagnosis.
During my years there, I must have analyzed hundreds of dumps.  Most of them 
were SVC dumps, but also the occasional stand-alone dump.  In those pre-XA 
days, the dumps that I examined were all on paper.

Today, I use IPCS.  I have mentored some to help them with their dump analysis 
skills.  A few have become quite competent at it.

--
Tom Marchant

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