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-----Original Message-----
From: Farley, Peter x23353 
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 6:36 PM
To: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Is it possible to update CSA from an unauthorized user-key program?

Responses inline below.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Assembler List <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of Seymour J Metz
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 6:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Is it possible to update CSA from an unauthorized user-key program?

A few points:

 1. As Peter Relson has noted, the shared storage should not be in CSA/ECSA.

Somewhat agreed.  I was thinking more along the lines of 64-bit user storage 
for the bulk of the data, accessed via the defined interface.  Slightly longer 
path length than direct memory access, but better RAS and security.
(Does C library shmem() supply any RAS or security?)

 2. If, e.g., an ISV, does it on their own, the code is likely to be tied to 
their own needs.

Very likely, but it is at least possible for something more general to come out 
of such an ISV effort, FSVO possible.

 3. The best option if there is a business is for IBM to do it.

Agreed, but then again they might over-complicate it just because that's what 
they often do.  Making a business case is difficult at best, and may be 
impossible given IBM's diminished knowledgeable technical head count in recent 
years (not counting the PFCSK's).

 4. If an RFE would take too long, then ther best option is an open source 
project.

Agreed, assuming an RFE wasn't rejected out of hand for no or insufficient 
business case.

 5. Is corporate sponsorship for such a project likely?

Is it needed?

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