On 7/18/23 13:30:35, Rick Troth wrote:

I'd like to think that I'm somewhat broad minded: I hate Java, but not the 
language, rather the requirement for the JVM and the ecosystem which has grown 
up around it.

Java can be done very wrong.  I've sought a portable (i.e. to more
than one desktop OS) unXmit.  I thought Java might be a solution,
but what I find is a .tar.gz archive containing dozens of files.

In contrast, identical jedit .jar files (with small wrapper scripts)
run on Linux and MacOS.  and <https://math.hws.edu/xJava/MB/index.html>
GUI runs alike on Linux, displaying via X11 and MacOS, displaying via
system graphics.  The file open dialog works on both.  I guess thee
things are implemented in the maligned JVM.  the separate CLI works
on desktop and z/OS.

*Java was a language looking for a purpose, then found popularity when the web 
was young

Java?  Or Javascript?

--
gil

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