On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 2:35 PM Ian Worthington <
[email protected]> wrote:

> That's what I had though, but apparently it's not correct.  In fact, for
> many years IBM has withheld its own changes to GCC for private sale to its
> own customers, apparently quite legally.
> (Caveat:  The absence of any yacht clearly indicates I am not a lawyer.
> Nor do I play one on TV.)
> Best wishes / Mejores deseos /  Meilleurs vœux
>
> Ian ...
>

For those who are curious, the good folks at https://lwn.net/ have been
covering some of these issues.

I believe that these are the articles (most of which I haven't even glanced
at)::
   Red Hat cutting back RHEL source availability:
https://lwn.net/Articles/935592/
   AlmaLinux's response to Red Hat's policy change:
https://lwn.net/Articles/935918/
   Kuhn: A Comprehensive Analysis of the GPL Issues With the Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL) Business Model: https://lwn.net/Articles/936127/
   McGrath: Red Hat’s commitment to open source:
https://lwn.net/Articles/936405/
   Brockmeier: Red Hat and the Clone Wars III: The dawn of CentOS:
https://lwn.net/Articles/937317/
   AlmaLinux to diverge (slightly) from RHEL:
https://lwn.net/Articles/938165/

Please be sure to enjoy the day -- we won't get another chance!  ;-)

Paul







    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 07:43:38 PM GMT+2, Tom Marchant <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  The terms of the GNU General Purpose License do not allow the source to
> be restricted in any way. The Linux kernel is licensed under GPL v2
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html
> AFAIK, most of the rest of the GNU operating system (colloquially known as
> "Linux", although Linux is actually just the kernel) is licensed under GPL
> v3
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html
>
> --
> Tom Marchant
>
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 07:03:05 +0000, Ian Worthington wrote:
>
> >Is this correct?  My understanding is that the source is still available
> but now only to customers in order to prevent downstream suppliers from
> using rhel as their base.
> >Of course I've slept since I saw this discussion so caveat emptor...
> >
> >    On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 02:47:32 AM GMT+2, Jon Perryman <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> IBM RHEL announced it's move to closed source (IBM RedHat Enterprise
> Linux). With some changes, DB2, RACF and other z/OS products could run in
> Linux on z16 in one sysplexed Linux image. We know it's possible because
> IBM moved Unix and TCP into z/OS. IBM RHEL said closed source would force
> non-paying customers to buy RHEL licenses but this makes no sense.
> Something else must be in play.
> >>I created a survey at https://forms.gle/ZTPXsDJo8Z4H93sv7 to gain
> insights into IBM's decision to close source RHEL. You can skip the survey
> if you don't want to take it and view the survey results through this
> website. Feel free to pass this along.
> >> I think IBM wants to integrate z/OS products to retain their
> investments and expand their customer base..
> >>Why is the z/OS community ignoring IBM RHEL closed source? Are software
> vendors preparing their products for Linux?
>
>

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