>> ----The whitelisted flag is a global flag per email - this flag will 
only
>> be removed from an email, if all envelope do not deni the sender in 
there
>> personal white.
>>
>So 1 person having it whitelisted and another blacklisted (personally), 
the
>white will win and the email will get through to both people right?

Person A has it whitelisted, Person B has it white denied - the 
whitelisted flag will be removed after the 'RCPT TO:' command. The mail 
will be  processed without the 'whitelisted' flag.

Person A has it whitelisted. Person B has it 'personal black listed' (it 
does not play a rule if B has it white or white deni) - the sender will 
get a '450 mailbox B unavailable' for 'RCPT TO: B' , the mail will be not 
delivered to B but to A and it will remain whitelisted as long there is no 
C who has it 'white denied'.

>Still though, with the personal blacklist, email from a user blacklisted
>entry would add to the corpus?  Any way to toggle that option?

personal blacklisted senders will be blocked after the 'RCPT TO:' command 
- so the mail will be never received, as long there is no other recipient 
who wants to get the mail.
personal black - is 'personal' , which meens that it does not belong to 
any other (global) check or score in assp.

> ----Is it too much to write a  ,*  ?

You do not need to write the ',*' to remove all entries for an address. 
Try it. The hint to the ',*' is only in the GUI to support the same syntax 
like in the email interface where we need it (no other way).


Thomas





Von:    K Post <[email protected]>
An:     ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]>
Datum:  25.05.2010 21:44
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Personal whitelist / blacklist general 
questions



Thanks as alwasy Thomas.    Almost everything you said is not only clear,
but also how I hoped it would work.  Shouldn't be a suprise - everything 
you
seem to do makes sense...

Followup questions:


>4) Say [email protected] is whitelisted globally but [email protected]
has
that address blacklisted.  If [email protected] sends a single email to
[email protected] and [email protected], will it get through to
neither,
both, or only user1?  If blocked to user2 but not user1 will
[email protected] still get a notification that it was blocked?

> >that address blacklisted   !!!! ---- "not white" meen not "black"
>
> Huh?  You lost me on "not white meaning not black".


> ----The whitelisted flag is a global flag per email - this flag will 
only
> be removed from an email, if all envelope do not deni the sender in 
there
> personal white.
>
So 1 person having it whitelisted and another blacklisted (personally), 
the
white will win and the email will get through to both people right?


>
>  I strongly recommend and request that we change the GUI functionality. 
I
> regularly remove 10-20 addresses from the whitelist at a time, intending
> to
> remove them for everyone.  It would be nice to continue being able to 
just
> stick the addresses in there from an email header, whithout having to
> clean
> them up and put ,* after each.  If as an admin I want to edit only my
> personal list, I can use the email interface just like everyone else.
>
> If this won't work, maybe we could add a radio button to "Remove from
> master
> whitelist and personal whiteliststs" and let that use the old syntax and
> affect everyone?
>
> ----Is it too much to write a  ,*  ?
>
>
Of course not, not for a single entry, but what about copying something 
from
the headers of an email where it's like:
To: "person name" ([email protected]), Joe [email protected],
[email protected],  [ 200 other addresses]

We catch stuff like this every once in a while, where a whitelisted sender
has their account hijacked at hotmail.  Then they send a message to 200
people including one of our recipients with a viagra link.  When we catch
it, we want to remove the 200 people from the globabl whitelist.  Having 
to
edit the string of addresses is a pain. Previously we could just copy 
paste
and ASSP would parse the string to pull out the email addresses.

Would it be hard to have the code assume that removals are global from the
GUI unless the address,user syntax is used (in which case it would be per
user).


Along the same lines, whitelist additions from the gui should go to the
master whitelist IMO and only also go to personal whitelists if using
email,user syntax.  Why have the extra overhead if it's not necessary?




> >6) On the personal blacklist, if some user blacklists *[email protected] (out 
of
> stupidity), clearly they won't get email from anyone from yahoo. 
However,
> will this idiot mistake cause these rejected emails in the same way that
> the
> master blackListedDomains does?  Is so, that would allow a stupid user 
to
> corrupt the corpus pretty quickly.  This is why I changed wildcardUser 
to
> something that no user would be able to guess.  I assume that 
wildcardUser
> is used with the personal white and blacklists too?
>
> >*[email protected]
>
> ----wildcards are not supported for this reason

Still though, with the personal blacklist, email from a user blacklisted
entry would add to the corpus?  Any way to toggle that option?


In all this sure seems like a great addition!
Thanks
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