Thanks Colin so much for testing for me!!

Problem 1- analyze report immediately following spam/notspam emails
I'm excited that I've found someone else with the same problem, and I'm
glad that you're not finding the bug to be impacted since you don't use the
feature.
The database/corpus looks fine when reports come in, which is really the
most important thing.  I've been forced to turn off the
DoAdditionalAnalyze, which I miss  -  it was a great way for me as the
admin to see what was being reported and act on it if necessary (either
removing the erroneous report or improving bombre or something else to
better catch errors).

Problem 2-multiple reports attached in one email
That's a good tip about the signature, but there's none on the tests that
I've done.  I know this used to work for us, and I have no idea when it
broke.  Most users refuse to report anything (and instead complain to me),
and multiple reports at once from end users don't seem to happen, so it's
really hard for me to guess when this was broken for us.  It's strange,
because if I forward say 3 attachments in one email, those 3 messages are
extracted properly, they just appear in a single file in errors/spam or
errors/notspam and the subject is bonkers.  Not a big deal, since the
feature isn't used much, but my problem is that I'm a perfectionist...

So Thomas, could you revisit #1 now that there's at least 1 other person
who has the problem?  We'll call #2 something strange with my setup and
move on.


On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Colin <colin.war...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
>
>
> The majority of our users are Exchange/Outlook based. Is yours Outlook
> with Exchange or Outlook with POP/IMAP/SMTP?
>
>
>
> I have never seen problem number 2. Reports including multiple attachments
> always work so I cannot help with that. We have Office 365, Exchange 2010,
> Exchange 2013 and now Exchange 2016 and have not seen any issues. Various
> versions of Outlook too. Have you made sure that you are not including a
> signature with the report? I’ve seen many instances where signatures cause
> reports to fail or have odd results so we ensure everyone is instruction to
> remove them.
>
>
>
> Problem 1, I have never set DoAdditionalAnalyze before. I have just set it
> and tried. The report that came through was corrupt. Every line ends in =0D
>
> I saved to an HTML file and stripped them all out.
>
> I can however say that I am seeing the same problem as you. All of the
> bayes and HMM bad words are out of the headers. The thank you message
> includes both the actual sender and an ms...@eurpro01.prod.
> exchangelabs.com address as well from the headers.
>
>
>
> I have then downloaded the .eml file that ASSP collected from exactly the
> same message and sent that using Thunderbird. I still see some information
> from the headers in Bad Words, but much less. To me it looks like the
> analyse is including the headers for all reports. The problem is more
> evident in the Outlook message because that includes Exchange receipt and
> processing headers. IIRC the analysis only works with a set number of
> lines/bytes at the beginning at the message hence this becomes a bigger
> problem when using Exchange.
>
> I've done a few preliminary searches directly in the database and I see
> the exact same entries appearing there which is a little concerning..have
> you checked your database to confirm if it is just an issue with the
> analyser for you?
>
> All the best,
> Colin.
>
>
> On 19/12/2016 20:01, K Post wrote:
>
> Thanks for chiming in Andrew!!
>
> This is through an exchange server.  The user enters the address from
> remembered addresses or by directly entering the internet address (which
> exchange knows isn't hosted internally).  By "Outlook user" I presume you
> mean Exchange users as Outlook's just a client and not a server.    I
> >think< this is all a moot point though as ASSP is getting the message
> correctly - or correctly enough - to save it as expected in the corrected
> corpus.  It's just the analyze report that's analyzing the report email
> itself vs the content of the reported email.  And I've got no idea what's
> going on when I forward multiple reports as attachments under one email.
> No idea how long that's been broken for me.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Andrew Macpherson <and...@oa5.com> wrote:
>
>> Just a thought…. Does Outlook think the mailbox for the report address is
>> an outlook user or an internet mail user?  (Check in the sending address
>> book)
>>
>> Andrew Macpherson <and...@oa5.com>
>> (Twitter @OA5dotCom)
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>> > On 19 Dec 2016, at 01:09, K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Can any of you report back on this?  THANKS
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 4:32 PM, K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm curious if there are any ASSP admins out there who use Outlook on a
>> PC.
>> >
>> > We're having 2 minor issues with Spam/NotSpam reports sent from Outlook
>> and I'm wondering if it's just our installation or if others are seeing the
>> same thing.  Thomas understandably doesn't want to install Outlook, so I'm
>> turning to you, the admin users of ASSP for some quick help.
>> >
>> > Note: we send reports to assp by doing a Forward as Attachment, which
>> preserves the headers.
>> >
>> >
>> > Problem #1: Analyze reports don't work.
>> > When we send a Spam/NotSpam report, the report itself is saved
>> perfectly in the corpus.  Headers are intact, the message is there.  All is
>> well.  However, if we have Spam and Ham Reports will trigger an additional
>> Analyze Report (DoAdditionalAnalyze) set to send an analyze report, the
>> report gets sent, but it's all wrong.  It seems to analyze the headers of
>> the report itself, not the reported message.  It also almost always
>> triggers and error in the log like:
>> > Dec-04-16 16:13:51 Warning: DKIM returned 'no domain to fetch policy
>> for '
>> > (that warning line just ends with a single quote)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Problem #2: Sending multiple reports in a single message doesn't work
>> correctly
>> > If we select a couple messages in the inbox and do a forward as
>> attachment to the spam/notspam reporting address, the message that is saves
>> in the corpus seems to be a mime encoded version of the fist message only,
>> the filename is a seemingly random bunch of ASCII characters.  I'm certain
>> that this used to work, but I the last time I texted was years and years
>> ago.  No idea when this stopped working for us.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Ken
>> >
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