>Possible other error - if DoNoFrom is set to score, shouldn't it ADD 50 
(or whatever valance) to the message, vs making the message score 50? 

This header check fails and faults are counted if :
...
The scoring value nofromValencePB is added for each detected fault

>Would you consider giving us the option to turn this one option off? 

OK.

Thomas



Von:    "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
An:     "ASSP development mailing list" <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
Datum:  21.11.2018 22:41
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] DoNoFrom scoring with different domain in 
>From and Sender



Thanks Thomas.

Possible other error - if DoNoFrom is set to score, shouldn't it ADD 50 
(or whatever valance) to the message, vs making the message score 50?  I 
have seen a couple DoNoFrom catches BLOCk the email because 50 is my limit 
when the message had a -35 (negative) score before getting to the DoNoFrom 
check.  The message score went from -35 right to 50 and was then blocked.  
The -35 came from senderbase.  Did that get ignored because I've got 
DoNoFrom to check even whitelisted mail?

also you wrote:
  - addresses in the From: and Sender: headers contain different domains 
(subdomains are ignored)
Would you consider giving us the option to turn this one option off?  I'm 
seeing legitimate email coming from mailing services where they put a 
Sender line with essentially what is the Mail-From from the envelope but 
the FROM line as the person who is paying to have the emailing service 
(generally what the email client picks up to display the from).  I really 
don't know what the point of the Sender line is, but it's being used more 
and more.  I'd really like to be able to tailor DoNoFrom further so it's 
effective with the way we get mail without causing the false positives 
that we're getting now.


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:16 AM Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com
> wrote:
>From: "serv...@thecompany.com" <serv...@thecompany.com> 

this parsing mistake will be fixed in the next release 


>I don't see where the GUI indicates that this should be blocked.  For 
DoNoFrom, the gui says ([ with my notes in brackets] 

I forgot the documentation 

  - addresses in the From: and Sender: headers contain different domains 
(subdomains are ignored)

will be fixed 

Thomas 



Von:        "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com> 
An:        "ASSP development mailing list" <
assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Datum:        19.11.2018 17:19 
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] DoNoFrom scoring with different domain in 
>From and Sender 



Update: I went back through the logs.  I'm seeing lots of  
X-Assp-Message-Score: 50 (multiple (2) 'From:' header tags found 
( DoNoFrom )) 
X-Assp-IP-Score: 50 (multiple (2) 'From:' header tags found ( 
DoNoFrom )) 
tags, that's making messages be rejected.  Most of from legitimate mailing 
companies, like SendGrid,     

One that I found has a single from line (no sender line like the other one 
I reported last week) which looks like this: 
From: "serv...@thecompany.com" <serv...@thecompany.com> 

Is that being detected as "multiple email addresses are found in one 
header."   Yes, the email address is there twice, but it's the same 
address, once instead of the name of the sender and once as the email 
address itself.  While bad form, do we really want to treat this as 
illegal and add the default score of 50 for this, even though the rest of 
the message is good?   This message got a -35 score initially because of a 
whitesenderbase, but the DoNoFrom added 50 (so a +15 net score), but the 
message was still rejected.  It's almost like DoNoFrom is set to BLOCK, 
when it was actually set to score. 

Can we discuss if something changed in the most recent version? 

For now, I've set DoNoFrom to monitor.   

Thanks 

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:25 PM K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote: 
I had a message go to spam because DoNoFrom reports 2 different sender 
domains in from and sender.   

Analyze says: 
 DoNoFrom: detected (1) faults in scoring mode - last reason: found (2) 
different sender domains in 'From:' and 'Sender:' header tags ( DoNoFrom ) 
- penalty: 1 * 50 = 50 

I don't see where the GUI indicates that this should be blocked.  For 
DoNoFrom, the gui says ([ with my notes in brackets] 
  
- both headers (From: and Sender:) are missing  
    [they're both there] 

- any of these headers contains not a valid email address  
       [all valid] 

- multiple of the same headers are found  
      [only one from and one sender line] 

- multiple email addresses are found in one header. 
       [see below, only one address for sender and one for from, but they 
are different domains] 

Sender: =?UTF-8?B?VmluY2V4bCBIdWdaZXa=?= <bou...@bounce.theirbigorg.org> 
Reply-To: theper...@gmail.com 
From: "Person Name" <theper...@gmail.com> 

I didn't know that DoNoFrom would fail if there was a different sender 
domain in From and Sender as is the case here.  Am I mistaken?  Is there a 
way to allow different from and sender domains?  I'd think that would be 
pretty common. 

Thanks 
ken 

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