Hi!

> the replies are almost useless

 What _exactly_ in my answers can not be use?
( and see later Z)  )

> 99.9% of these questions could be answered with proper documentation.


 URL?
i.e If You known URL of "proper documentation" -- please, send it to me  ( VVM)


> Short . . . answers



 a)

Mike _ask_ me for _short_ form of answer
 I'm re(!)-send

Details -- See P.P.P.S.

z)

 Dear Jeremy, as I undestand,  You personal preferred long answer?
and You preferred _public_ mail list? no _personal_ e-mail?

 Ok,  "no problem"

You can see my long answer it in P.P.S.

Short ( for ALL):

To ALL: look like what:
 -- Jeremy stop using ASSP on some days in interval 2011-10-19 . . 2013-05-19
 -- Jeremy is _commersant_
 -- Jeremy commertion based not on ASSP
 -- Jeremy commertion based on non-ASSP antispam solution

Details in P.P.S.

Again to Jeremy:

 Are You see this my personal e-mail
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victor Miasnikov"
To: "Jeremy McSpadden"
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 5:46 PM

 . . .
--

?

Or Yours non-ASSP antispam solution simply killed this message?
i.e. has not worked whitelist?


If see -- why not answer?




 !)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Eckardt"
To: "For Users of ASSP"
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:45 PM
Subject: [Assp-user] Antwort: to be or not to be..an open source success 
RE:HELP with ASSP..


Allen>>this is no plug-n-play solution

> That's right! Possibly not V1, especialy NOT V2 are plug-n-play solutions
> if you want to block more than 85% of spams without false positives.
> Both versions will never work like expected, if the GUI was not read at
> least one time completely - before any tweak is done or an additionaly
> feature is enabled.

 . . .

> I - from a technican point of view - prefer the first - you, as the '
> Director of Technology' maybe the last variant.
> On the other site, I share the result of my hobby - assp - with the world
> (for free) - but as an IT consultant, I only sell knowledge - I can't give
> it away for nothing.
>
> Thomas

 Bravo!

Is my answer to

Details -- See P.S.


Best regards, Victor Miasnikov
Blog:  http://vvm.blog.tut.by/


P.S.


> support staff should be providing to its clients.

 Yes "support staff" -- should

But _I_ personally not "support staff"

And Mike not _my_ client


P.P.S.

 Fact: Jeremy _know_ my personal e-mail and already has write to me:
{{
==
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy McSpadden"
To: "Victor Miasnikov"
Cc: mike (at) grounded.net; "Thomas Eckardt"; "Pascal Dreissen" ; "Fritz 
Borgstedt"
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: ZZZZZ


 . . . ( skipped by VVM)

--
Jeremy McSpadden
  . . . ( skipped by VVM)
On May 20, 2013, at 8:26 AM, "Victor Miasnikov" vvm (at) ZZZZZZZZZZZ.by wrote:

 . . . ( skipped by VVM)
==
}}


Why he write on "May 20, 2013 7:31 PM" to mail list?
Goal?

[ IMHO, ] answer is very simple -- commercion

 If  any "user of ASSP" look on mail archive

 Or open
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.assp.user/
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.assp.user/16503
[s]he can read:

{{
----- Original Message ----- 
From: m...@grounded.net
To: "assp-users"
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] HELP with ASSP again..!? end of thelineapproacheshere..

From: Jeremy McSpadden
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:24 AM
To: mailto:m...@grounded.net
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] HELP with ASSP again..!? end of the 
lineapproacheshere..

Honestly my friend ... ASSP is garbage. Way to complicated for what it 
supposedly does. I have operated mail servers for
20 years, and it is not worth the hassle. Support is weak and it's just over 
complicated with a bad UI.

I moved to Baruwa. I'm not sure how your setup is. Take a look at it though.
--

Jeremy McSpadden
Flux Labs, Inc | http://www.fluxlabs.net | Endless Solutions
Office : 850-250-5590x101 | Cell : 850-890-2543 | Fax : 850-254-2955
}}


I open Google and start search by sub-string "ASSP site:fluxlabs.net" -- zero/0
I open Google and start search by sub-string "Baruwa site:fluxlabs.net"

==
Flux Labs - Home
www.fluxlabs.net/
Your junk & spam mail is caught using Baruwa. Demo Image. Web Hosting. Reseller 
Hosting. So you need to put that website
somewhere, or your just tired of ...

.. Flux MailGuard :: Login
https://mailguard.fluxlabs.net/
Forgotten your password? Enter your e-mail address below, and we'll e-mail 
instructions on setting a new one. Email
Address Cancel ยท Baruwa (c) 2011 Andrew ...


.. MailGuard :: Reset my password - Login - Flux Labs
smtp2.fluxlabs.net/accounts/passwd/reset ...
Baruwa. Login. Username Password.
==


 Open ASSP-user mail arhive:

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy McSpadden" To: "For Users of ASSP"
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:31 PM
 . . .
 --

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy McSpadden" To: "For Users of ASSP"
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:35 PM
  . . .
--


2013-05-19 . . 2011-10-19 -- no messages, but one exeption:
_personal_  message to potential client i.e. Mike





P.P.P.S.


> Short . . . answers


 Please open Yours mail archive of ASSP list:

----- Original Message ----- 
From: mike
To: "assp-users"
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ VVM: 1) Mike _never_ send msg ( inclide answers) to 
correspondent, but always to ALL
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Install BerkeleyDB version 5.xx Re: rebuild killsassp 
even with correct perl Re: HELP with ASSP
again

Mike> I'm not sure what this reply means because there are so many quotes and
Mike> re-quotes, it's just a mess.

--

 Mike _ask_ me for _short_ form of answer

 I'm re(!)-send:
==
Mike>> Mike> Just need to figure out how to make 5.16 the default one instead of
Mike>> having  to switch.
VVM> Fedora 20 . . Fedora 18

Mike>> Mike>He is saying that assp doesn't work with the 64bit version of perl
VVM>> Facts: "assp does work as need with the 64bit version of perl"
==


---


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy McSpadden"
To: "For Users of ASSP"
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] rebuild kills assp even with correct perl


> Victor .. Not sure what email client your using but the replies are almost 
> useless.
>No one understands your methodology of replies. Short vague answers to not 
>provide any light on the subjects of
>support.
>One word or quick answers are not what support staff should be providing to 
>its clients.
>
> 99.9% of these questions could be answered with proper documentation.
>
> --
> Jeremy McSpadden


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