Well, were there changes in ASSP that would affect this between b14058 
and b14097? Since I hadn't had any problems before that upgrade, and 
OpenSSL has stayed the same throughout.

Here's the debug info back, with a number of the lines above the error:

 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <sq: IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x15c05f98)  l=10
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x15c05f98)  l=10
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <wrote: 
IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x15c05f98)  (10)
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <SMTPTraffic - read OK
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <SMTPTraffic - process read
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <doing line <220 TLS go ahead[CR][LF]
 >
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <reply - 220 TLS go ahead[CR][LF]
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <illegal STARTTLS request without TLS 
ready from server
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <matchIP - 54.240.15.111 - noTLSIP
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <NoLoopSyswrite
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <NoLoopSyswrite - write(30 
IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x13b30ff8)): '220 TLS go ahead[CR][LF]
' - 18
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <NoLoopSyswrite - wrote: 18 to 
IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x13b30ff8)
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <TimeZoneDiff: -25200 seconds to GMT
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] <headerWrap
 >May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] Info: notification message queued to 
sent to ad...@admin.com
May-01-14 04:48:03 [Worker_1] 54.240.15.111 error: Couldn't upgrade to 
TLS for client 54.240.15.111: SSL connect accept failed because of 
handshake problems error:14094438:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 
alert internal error


Is that at all helpful? I don't have any problem with most other 
mailservers using STARTTLS, just Amazon's.


With the SSL Debug log level setting, I am rather unclear which setting 
is considered the highest, Level 1 or Level 3?

-C



Thomas Eckardt said the following on 5/1/2014 4:14 AM:
>> I tried various changes to (SSL_version)
> - use a version 1.x.x of OpenSSL - the default security and cipher setup
> has been changed from version 0.9.x to 1.x.x
> - setup the default behavior of OpenSSL in the OpenSSL config file
> - setup 'SSL_version'
> - setup 'SSL_cipher_list'
>
> if you need to setup some very special parameters on your
> SSL-SMTP-Listeners use the 'SSLSMTPConfigure' callback configuration
>
> notice: if the connecting Server uses a weak cipher, that is not supported
> (rejected) by your OpenSSL setup, the handshake will fail - the same is
> the case, if your cipher is too weak for the connecting server
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> Von:    "Mr. Courtney Creighton" <a...@dezignguy.com>
> An:     For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
> Datum:  01.05.2014 12:55
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] SSL errors from Amazon mailservers
>
>
>
> Ok, did some more testing for this. It looks like my mail server expects
> SSL only connections (such as port 465) to come all the way through as
> an encrypted connection and the Network Setup connections behavior has
> changed in the new ASSP version (v14068). So that's why I was also
> having problems with secure port 465. My previous setup had worked fine
> (sending everything to the listenPort), but when checking the changelog
> again, I noticed that the Network Setup settings were changed in the new
> version, and incoming SSL connections to the destination mailserver had
> to be specified as SSL in the ASSP config.
>
> Changing (smtpDestinationSSL) to use an SSL connection to the mailserver
> seems to have resolved the new problems that came up with port 465 not
> working, but I am still having trouble with Amazon's mail servers
> sending with SSL. I tried various changes to (SSL_version) and using SSL
> on (listenPort), but none of them really worked properly.
>
> I am not quite sure how Amazon's mail servers are connecting to mine
> that gets the SSL handshake error, but maybe it is related to how the
> SSL connections are proxied/not proxied now, and being unexpected by my
> mailserver, ie one side is speaking SSL and the other is speaking in
> plain text. SSL and TLS work fine for me with other combinations of
> ports, so I am not sure why it is happening with connections from Amazon
> and another regional ISP. Amazon seems to try the SSL connection first,
> and then when it fails, just switches to plain text SMTP so the email
> does get delivered in the end.
>
> I've configured debugging for SSL on those Amazon IP addresses now, so
> perhaps that will get more information.
>
> -C
>
>
>
> Thomas Eckardt said the following on 5/1/2014 2:41 AM:
>>> Is it possible that ASSP may be advertising ciphers or encryption
>>> capabilities that it does not actually have
>> I don't see any missing parameter in V2.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>> Von:    "Mr. Courtney Creighton" <a...@dezignguy.com>
>> An:     For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
>> Datum:  30.04.2014 09:07
>> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] SSL errors from Amazon mailservers
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, though the Redhat packages have newer security patches and fixes
>> backported.
>> I also note that RHEL5/CentOS5 is supported through Mar 31st, 2017.
>>
>> So do you think that this issue is indeed caused by the OpenSSL package?
>>
>> Is it possible that ASSP may be advertising ciphers or encryption
>> capabilities that it does not actually have (because of the underlying
>> OpenSSL package) and that is why Amazon's servers persist in trying to
>> connect securely using a method that fails in the SSL handshake? Can the
>> advertised information be changed in ASSP?
>>
>> -C
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas Eckardt said the following on 4/29/2014 9:43 AM:
>>>> OpenSSL is the default CentOS 5 RPM package, Version: 0.9.8e
>>> This is very much too old!
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Von:    "Mr. Courtney Creighton" <a...@dezignguy.com>
>>> An:     assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net,
>>> Datum:  29.04.2014 10:42
>>> Betreff:        [Assp-user] SSL errors from Amazon mailservers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I recently upgraded from ASSPv2 2.4.1(14058) to 2.4.1(14097). After the
>>> upgrade I started getting alot of these SSL errors from Amazon's
>>> outgoing mailservers, for their various alerts and newsletter emails:
>>>
>>> error: Couldn't upgrade to TLS for client 54.240.15.40: SSL connect
>> accept
>>> failed because of handshake problems error:14094438:SSL
>>> routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert internal error
>>>
>>> It also seems that I am getting a higher volume of these types of
>> errors:
>>> error: Couldn't upgrade to TLS for client 66.27.79.33: SSL accept
>> attempt
>>> failed with unknown error error:140760FC:SSL
>>> routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol
>>>
>>> But as far as I can tell, they all seem to be "spammy" (dynamic
>>> ISP/foreign) ips, so I'm not too concerned about them. Just providing
>>> the info in case it is related.
>>>
>>> Currently running ASSP version 2.4.1(14097) (Perl 5.014003) (on linux -
>>> Centos 5.10 64 bit)
>>>
>>> OpenSSL is the default CentOS 5 RPM package, Version: 0.9.8e Release:
>>> 27.el5_10.1
>>>
>>>
>>> If more information is still needed, I can try to grab an SSL debug
> file
>>> when Amazon sends me some more email.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -Court
>>>
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