Ahh, I suspect that my users have been hitting "Unsubscribe" links and then failing to admit it under questioning. I'll do as you suggest. Thanks again.
-----Original Message----- From: K Post [mailto:nntp.p...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 June 2015 14:13 To: For Users of ASSP Subject: Re: [Assp-user] I think I'm doing something wrong When I post analyze results, I typically obscure all IP's and addresses. PBWhite is the white penalty box, the list of good IP's. See pbDB. You can view those entries that are whitelisted there. Maybe it's a good idea to start over with the penaltybox? Sounds like that's not right either. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Miles Gaynor <m...@castlehoward.co.uk> wrote: > Hmm, I'm still getting spam arriving even though it has spam prob of > 1.0 from Bayesian. > Does "* is in PB White" mean the sender is whitelisted? If so... I've > got a problem :( Is there an accepted way to post an asspanalyze > result to the list? > Thanks, > Miles > > -----Original Message----- > From: K Post [mailto:nntp.p...@gmail.com] > Sent: 01 June 2015 14:51 > To: For Users of ASSP > Subject: Re: [Assp-user] I think I'm doing something wrong > > I've always used subject name logging for that very reason, but the > random numbered file names takes less maintenance. If you're using > subject name logging make sure that you have the maintenance tasks set > to do their thing, to keep the number of messages under control. > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Miles Gaynor <m...@castlehoward.co.uk> > wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply, it is really helpful. I'm experiencing much > > better results with HMM set to monitor, I will continue to test. The > > Bayesian filters seems to be doing very well on its own, but I'll > > investigate the corpus further as you recommend. I'll have to switch > > back to subject name logging first. > > I do appreciate this! > > Miles > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: K Post [mailto:nntp.p...@gmail.com] > > Sent: 29 May 2015 15:32 > > To: For Users of ASSP > > Subject: Re: [Assp-user] I think I'm doing something wrong > > > > I agree with your analysis of the problem. Why it's happening, I > > can't say > > - > > I'm sure Thomas will chime in, but in the interim, if you're not > > fining HMM reliable (please check more than just the 1 message) > > consider turning it to monitor mode instead of scoring/blocking so > > that the HMM inaccuracies don't cause poor results, at least that's > > what > I would do. > > > > I went through this when first turning on HMM. Turns out that the > > corpus wasn't great, an bayesian wasn't perfect either. I use > > subject name logging which helps my identify incorrectly classified > > messages in the corpus. I sorted the spam, not-spam, and errors > > folders by name. Then I eyeballed the filenames, looking for > > obvious errors. I also used messages from ok mail an discarded that > > I manually reviewed and moved to spam/not-spam to help learn. It's > > a tedious process, but necessary IMO when the corpus is too far out of > > whack. > > > > I also run a block report for all addresses sent to me nightly, and > > review every single block. Of course this doesn't show bad mail > > that is delivered > > - I rely on users to report those, and they're starting to. Big help. > > > > Hope this helps you get the server running as it should. > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Miles Gaynor > > <m...@castlehoward.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > I've noticed a large increase in spam recently, mainly from > > > marketing types sending me genuine marketing that I don't actually > > > want. I assumed that was because the messages were convincing but > > > I sent one to > > > asspanalyze@assp.local<mailto:asspanalyze@assp.local> > > > and this is the final part of the message. > > > > > > > > > Bayesian Spam Probability: > > > combined probability: > > > > > > 1.00000000 - got 111 - used 60 most significant results > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > Hidden-Markov-Model Spam Probability: > > > combined HMM spam probability: > > > > > > 0.0000 - got 44 - used 44 most significant results > > > > > > > > > > > > If I'm reading that correctly, the Bayesian filter is working fine > > > but the HMM isn't agreeing with it. > > > Could you give me a clue? (yes, I'm pretty clueless). > > > Thank you, > > > Miles > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Castle Howard Estate is a limited company registered in England > > > and > > Wales. > > > Registered Number: 480214. 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