Good day Thomas.

Thank you for letting me know those settings are defaults. Here's the 
current settings I have once again:

'DoBayesian' = Block
'BayesWL' = OFF
'BayesNP' = OFF

Looking through the email interface neither 'BayesWL' or 'BayesNP' have 
any description. So I am not inclined to just turn these on without 
knowing what they do. So what do these functions do so I understand 
this. Does ON mean white listed and No Processing users are subjected to 
Bayesian? or is it the other way around?

Still my concern here is why where my white listed users subjected to 
Bayesian matching? Is this because I have BayesWL & BayesNP turned OFF?

On 8/29/2015 5:33 AM, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>> 'DoBayesian' seems to be configured to 'block'
>> 'BayesWL' and/or 'BayesNP is switched on
> These are faults.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:    Jay <h...@herodata.com>
> An:     assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Datum:  28.08.2015 16:21
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] Whitelisted Users rejected as Spam?
>
>
>
> Hello Thomas.
>
> So I checked the settings you recommended,
>
> DoBayesian is set to block
> BayesWL & BayesNP are both set to off
>
> So as far as I am aware, DoBayesian has been set to block for a long
> time and has not been changed. What should this be set to? Setting this
> value to score would score the emails accordingly in the PB correct? I
> just want to make sure before I make a major change like this that I
> fully understand how this should work.
>
> My concern is why if I have both the BayesWL & BayesNP turned off are
> white listed users still being subjected to the spam filtering process?
> I could see if I had those features turned on that those users would be,
> but that is not the case here. Any other settings I could check that
> might be affecting this?
>
> Thank you for the advice and guidance. I appreciate it.
>
> On 8/28/2015 2:03 AM, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>> check your Bayesian config
>>
>> 'DoBayesian' seems to be configured to 'block'
>> 'BayesWL' and/or 'BayesNP is switched on
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von:    Jay <h...@herodata.com>
>> An:     For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Datum:  27.08.2015 21:23
>> Betreff:        [Assp-user] Whitelisted Users rejected as Spam?
>>
>>
>>
>> The current build we are on is 2.4.5(15162). So my problem just keeps
>> getting weirder and weirder. This all seems to be traveling it's way
>> back to the fear that my ASSP database is definitely poisoned and needs
>> to be addressed. I got a call today from one of my users that does
>> business with a long term client. The client has been getting blocked by
>> the spam filter even though they are already on the white list and have
>> been for years. It was my understanding that once a user is white listed
>> in ASSP that they are no longer subjected to Bayesian matching and are
>> allowed through. This does not make any sense.
>>
>> Here's a snippet of my log file from ASSP for one of the blocked
>> messages. (I masked the IP and actual email addresses)
>>
>> Aug-27-15 11:59:58 [Worker_3] Connected: session:2AFB631C
>> XX.XX.XXX.XXX:60528 > XX.XXX.XXX.XXX:25 > 127.0.0.1:26
>> Aug-27-15 11:59:59 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> info: found message size announcement: 1.92 MByte
>> Aug-27-15 11:59:59 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> message proxied without processing - message size
>> (2008713) is above 500000 (npSize).
>> Aug-27-15 11:59:59 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com info: detected IP's on the
>> mail routing way: 50.56.144.247, 50.56.144.22
>> Aug-27-15 11:59:59 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com info: detected source IP:
>> XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> Aug-27-15 12:00:00 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com Message-Score: added -15
>> (pbwValencePB) for In Penalty White Box, total score for this message is
>> now -15
>> Aug-27-15 12:00:00 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com Message-Score: added -15
>> (pbwValencePB) for (OIP: XX.XX.XXX.XXX) In Penalty White Box, total
>> score for this message is now -30
>> Aug-27-15 12:00:00 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com Message-Score: added -15
>> (pbwValencePB) for (OIP: XX.XX.XXX.XX) In Penalty White Box, total score
>> for this message is now -45
>> Aug-27-15 12:00:00 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com Bayesian Check  - Prob:
>> 1.00000 => spam
>> Aug-27-15 12:00:00 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com Message-Score: added 39 for
>> Bayesian Probability: 1.00000, total score for this message is now -6
>> Aug-27-15 12:00:00 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] [Bayesian] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com [spam found] (Bayesian) [Lot
>> 1 CWF Work Order Documents] -> c:/assp/discarded/20883--4453557.eml;
>> Aug-27-15 12:00:02 m1-91199-20883 [Worker_3] XX.XX.XXX.XXX
>> <sen...@user.com> to: recipi...@company.com [SMTP Error] 554 Mail
>> appears to be unsolicited SPAM--
>>
>> So the client is sen...@user.com and has been on the white list for a
>> long time. This situation seems to have cropped up since we updated ASSP
>> about 3 weeks ago. Here's what I got back from the white list report:
>>
>> sen...@user.com: already on whitelist   <------ This is what puzzles me,
>> why did the user get their message rejected but they are on the white
>> list?
>>
>> Two things concern me here, 1. Why are white listed users still being
>> subjected to Bayesian matching? and 2. How do I go about fixing the
>> issue with Bayesian? I submitting the email to the mail analyzer and
>> here's the output:
>>
>> Feature Matching: All green dots and every check here, Whitelisted
>> Domains, On Global Whitelist, SPF-Check, URIBL, Known Good HELO, valid
>> MX record, valid A record, RBLCheck, etc.
>>
>> Here's the Bayesian Analysis:
>>
>> Bad Words    Bad Prob
>> randnumber randnumber    1
>> blines blines    0.9991
>> font family    0.9985
>> mso style    0.9975
>> font size    0.9949
>> font face    0.9932
>> face font    0.9932
>> style priority    0.9902
>> if you    0.9848
>> randnumber 0pt    0.9848
>> size randnumber    0.9848
>> 0in 0in    0.9737
>> com sender    0.9737
>> margin bottom    0.9737
>> randnumber font    0.9737
>> family calibri    0.9737
>> priority randnumber    0.9737
>> you have    0.9737
>> sans serif    0.9737
>> ssub ssub    0.9737
>> panose randnumber    0.9737
>> 0pt font    0.9737
>> div wordsection1    0.9444
>> blue text    0.9444
>> wordsection1 size    0.9444
>> export only    0.9444
>> panose font    0.9444
>> thank you    0.9444
>> emailstylerandnumber mso    0.9444
>> color blue    0.9444
>> com rcpt    0.9444
>> msohyperlink mso    0.9444
>> style definitions    0.9444
>> msohyperlinkfollowed mso    0.9444
>> visited span    0.9444
>> type export    0.9444
>> calibri panose    0.9444
>> li msonormal    0.9444
>> fax randnumber    0.9444
>> 0in margin    0.9444
>> text decoration    0.9444
>> serif color    0.9444
>> wordsection1 page    0.9444
>>
>> Good Words    Good Prob
>> work order    0.0002
>> lot ssub    0.0002
>> ssub lot    0.0002
>> questions thank    0.0012
>> homes randnumber    0.0021
>> color windowtext    0.016
>> shiloh il    0.0196
>> wordsection1 attachment    0.02
>> randnumber office    0.0274
>> randnumber mobile    0.0316
>> windowtext msochpdefault    0.0435
>> compose font    0.0463
>> com style    0.0497
>> always please    0.0556
>> ssub documents    0.0556
>> blines andrea    0.0556
>>
>> combined probability:    1.00000000 - got 137 - used 60 most significant
>> results
>>
>> Sorry for the massive post but this is really concerning me and in the
>> years I have been using ASSP I have never seen this type of situation
>> happen where a white listed user got email rejected due to ASSP thinking
>> it's spam. We just upgraded ASSP from version 2.4.1(14085) to version
>> 2.4.5(15162) on 8/7/2015. All I did was drop in the update files ASSP.pl
>> and ASSP_pop3.pl. I had to update 2 modules that were out of date
>> ASSP_FC from version 1.04 to 1.05 and ASSP_SVC 1.02 to version 1.03. I
>> have not changed anything in my config file and it's the same as it has
>> been.
>>
>> Any suggestions or advice is greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
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