This is not important for incoming mails - these word combinations never
happen there.
It hurts only if Bayes and/or HMM are enabled for outgoing mail.
That the analyzer shows these results is not nice, but can't be changed.
And NO, if the mail is forwarded as attachment, assp ignores the real mail
header, it uses only the mail header from the attachment (if there is
one!).
Thomas
Von: K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
An: For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Datum: 12.04.2016 15:37
Betreff: Re: [Assp-user] Additional My-Name-Definitions
(myNameAlso)
No question, staff MUST forward as attachment from Outlook. You haven't
met the people I'm working with.... passionate about the charity,
compassionate, and really good people at heart, but can't seem to apply
that passion to following tech guidelines / rules. I'm seeking approval
to
prohibit reporting from those who can't follow the rules.
Our setup goes: ASSP->SMTP server with pop/imap which forwards (for
most)
to an exchange array. Even when they forward as attachment, the mail has
the smtp server's and exchange server's received headers, as expected.
HMM and Bayes are showing them in the analyze, as bad. So if putting them
in My-Name-Definitions is a bad idea, is there some sort of "don't
consider
these words or phrases" setting. How about a bombre with a zero score?
Would that work? Is something like that necessary?? I feel like we need
to tell ASSP "hey, the following hostnames, while not ASSP, are still our
servers - don't pay attention to those lines - they'll be in every report,
good or bad."
As for the block email report, copying the file from the errors folder
into
the mail analyzer gives correct results, it's just the email report that
is
mostly empty. This is just a minor annoyance and not worth your time if
I'm the only one (or am I one of the few who looks at / gets these
reports?). ASSP is working, it's just the report itself that's wonky.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Thomas Eckardt
<thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
wrote:
> >Should we list other non-ASSP servers in Additional My-Name-Definitions
> >(myNameAlso)
>
> No - the GUI description of 'myNameAlso' is correct. it is only used
for
> the 'Received:' line parsing.
>
> >I know that users sometimes just forward instead of forwarding as an
> >attachment from Outlook. Working on correcting that with training.
>
> There is nothing more to say. Simply forwarding an email to a report
> address, will destroy the required original MIME header lines.
>
> >The files in the errors folders are fine,
> >but the analyze emailed report doesn't have the correct info.
>
> Any of both statements must be wrong, because the reported (stored
> .rpt.eml) content is analyzed!
> Compare the .rpt.eml file to the .eml of the original mail stored by
assp
> and to the MIME source shown in the client (outlook).
>
> I can't reproduce this. All possible cases are working for me:
>
> - attached .eml (not recommended if the attachment is not base64
encoded)
> - attached compressed .eml
> - attached .msg (outlook message file - requires
Email::Outlook::Message)
> - attached compressed .msg (outlook message file - requires
> Email::Outlook::Message)
>
> This may possibly help - http://www.assptoolbar.com/
> To spend some money, you may write your own small VB or powershell
script
> for outlook.
>
> Because Lotus-Notes has the same "problem" (IMHO like every other mail
> client) with the simple forwarding to the report addresses, I've written
> an agent that converts the reported mail to a comressed attachment and
> sends it to assp.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Von: K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> An: For Users of ASSP <Assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum: 12.04.2016 00:16
> Betreff: [Assp-user] Additional My-Name-Definitions (myNameAlso)
>
>
>
> Should we list other non-ASSP servers in Additional My-Name-Definitions
> (myNameAlso)
>
> For example: exchange server names. smarthosts, the real SMTP server,
etc
>
> My question is prompted by seeing spam report analyze reports showing
> things like the below under bad prob.
>
> ourcharity org 0.991 (ourcharity.org is our domain)
> apr receiv 0.991 (don't know exactly what that means)
> helo receiv exch ourcharity 1.000 (our exchange server)
>
> I know that users sometimes just forward instead of forwarding as an
> attachment from Outlook. Working on correcting that with training.
>
>
> And related, the analyze reports still are missing all sorts of
> information
> when sent as an attachment from Outlook. The files in the errors
folders
> are fine, but the analyze emailed report doesn't have the correct info.
I
> started a thread on this before which I'm hoping can be revisited.
>
> Thanks again
>
>
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