Hello Thomas,
thanks for your good description.

Now i have too use DKIM in my setup with postfix and amavisd-new.
I have a little problem with the setup. I use since years ASSP (Anti 
Spam SMTP Proxy) and wont miss it.
I only like to use amavisd for the DKIM and Antivirus stuff.

My Setup is now:

Internet -> ASSP -> Postfix -> ASSP -> Internet

Get the Emails on Port 25,465,587 in ASSP and send it to
Postfix on Port 10025

In the /etc/services is
asspsmtp        10025/tcp       mail
asspssmtp       10026/tcp

in /etc/postfix/master.cf
asspsmtp      inet  n       -       -       -       -       smtpd -v
#asspsmtpd     inet  n      -       -       -       -       smtp

I have setup letsencrypt certs in ASSP and Postfix.
This configuration worked well so far.


I read the Amavisd default uses port 10025
I shifted the ASSP Port to 10035 and 10036 but it doesent work.
ASSP and Postfix cant get a connection on 10035
I do not understand what's going on.

How can I add Amavisd when I leave ASSP on port 10025
Do i have to add something in /etc/services?

Thanks for Help

Christian


Am 23.08.2016 um 14:34 schrieb Thomas Eckardt:
>> On outgoing the spam sender is whitlisted
>
> forwarded mails out->in(FW)->out should be detected as redlisted mail by
> assp (redRe)
> redlisted mails never contributes to whitelist additions
>
>> After a time
>> Web.de is blocking my Server IP.
>> Whats happend?
>
> This depends on the forwarding mechanism of your mail server/client.
> Forwarding an email, is a bad idea. If your mail server (client) provides
> a 'send a copy to' , use this mechanism.
> Let's say, the original mail was from gmail.com - it is forwarded to
> web.de through your server. Think about, what web.de sees: an email from
> gmail.com sent by your IP - web.de checks SPF -> fail! Your server or
> client modifies the mail subject (FW: is added for example) -> web.de
> checks the DKIM signature -> fail. Your server/client removes the DKIM
> signature - web.de knows, gmail has to have one -> fail. Worst case - spam
> is forwarded - web.de detects spam from your IP - report goes to
> RBL-providers - your IP will get globaly blacklisted after some time!
>
> I don't know, if web.de provides a whitepaper, how emails should be
> forwarded to them. There are several X-MIME headers that can be used to
> tag forwarded mail (like: X-Forwarded-For), but like all X-MIME headers -
> there is no 'have to' or 'must' - only a 'can'. It is allowed to ignore
> them all.
>
> An safe way to forward is:
> - use the local account as envelope sender
> - replace the from header address by the local account
> - put the original from address in to the 'Sender:' header line
> - possibly add the 'X-Forwarded-For' header
> - remove all DKIM or DomainKey signatures
> - remove all SMIME signature parts
>
> Someone would say: SRS is developed for this forwarding to solve the SPF
> failure - Yes, this is true, but I don't know any implementation for SRS
> at any of the large email providers.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Von:    Christian Leicht <use...@schani.com>
> An:     For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum:  23.08.2016 13:35
> Betreff:        [Assp-user] spam an forwarded email
>
>
>
> Hello,
> what can i do ?
> Some of my users get spam an (auto)forward all emails to a web.de
> Emailaddress. On outgoing the spam sender is whitlisted. After a time
> Web.de is blocking my Server IP.
> Whats happend?
> Thanks for a tipp
>
> Christian
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