Fair enough, but that means we've got to monitor that.  My bigger concern
is that we're making an exception to reduce security on connections from
one of the biggest players in the industry.  Wouldn't it be preferable to
figure out what's going on?  Is Google doing something completely
non-standard?

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:37 AM, Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
wrote:

> >But what happens when they start sending
> from another IP?
>
> Than, the SPF record is changed.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:    K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> An:     For Users of ASSP <assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum:  07.09.2016 20:38
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] Extreme slow on bigger emails
>
>
>
> This sounds similar to what I'm seeing with gmail mails when TLS is on.
>
> It's hard for me to believe that Google would be doing something
> completely
> non-standard.   I can't see there being a chance that they'd have some
> setting that makes outgoing mail slow for them, though I suppose it's
> possible.
>
> I feel like there must be some setting or code error in ASSP that doesn't
> agree with the way that google's doing things. I hate to say it, but
> Google's email presence is just too big to ignore this.  Sure we can turn
> off TLS or restrict based on IP.  But what happens when they start sending
> from another IP?  Remember they'll stop the transmission if it's been
> alive
> too long.  And what happens when they start flagging sent items in
> people's
> mailbox as insecure, as they've begun doing with those in the inbox?
>
> Now, I've got no clue whatsoever how to figure out what the problem but
> I'm
> happy to help test in any way I can.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:03 AM, Thomas Eckardt
> <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
> wrote:
>
> > As a workaround you may add the following IPv4 ranges to 'noTLSIP'
> >
> > 64.18.0.0/20
> > 64.233.160.0/19
> > 66.102.0.0/20
> > 66.249.80.0/20
> > 72.14.192.0/18
> > 74.125.0.0/16
> > 108.177.8.0/21
> > 173.194.0.0/16
> > 207.126.144.0/20
> > 209.85.128.0/17
> > 216.58.192.0/19
> > 216.239.32.0/19
> > 172.217.0.0/19
> >
> > They are the IPv4 ranges shown in the SFP record of gmail.com
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > Von:    Christian Leicht <use...@schani.com>
> > An:     assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Datum:  04.09.2016 22:43
> > Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] Extreme slow on bigger emails
> >
> >
> >
> > Some more infos
> >
> > Sep  4 22:40:02 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-21214-10692 209.85.220.172
> > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: ssl-read renegotiation
> > finished - recovered from - SSL_WANT_READ
> > Sep  4 22:40:02 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-21214-10692 209.85.220.172
> > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: ssl-read - renegotiation in
> > progress - SSL_WANT_READ
> > Sep  4 22:40:02 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-21214-10692 209.85.220.172
> > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: ssl-read renegotiation
> > finished - recovered from - SSL_WANT_READ
> > Sep  4 22:40:02 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-21214-10692 209.85.220.172
> > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: ssl-read - renegotiation in
> > progress - SSL_WANT_READ
> > Sep  4 22:40:02 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-21214-10692 209.85.220.172
> > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: ssl-read renegotiation
> > finished - recovered from - SSL_WANT_READ
> > Sep  4 22:40:02 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-21214-10692 209.85.220.172
> > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: ssl-read - renegotiation in
> > progress - SSL_WANT_READ
> > Sep  4 22:40:02 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-21214-10692 209.85.220.172
> > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: ssl-read renegotiation
> > finished - recovered from - SSL_WANT_READ
> >
> >
> > Am 04.09.2016 um 22:25 schrieb Christian Leicht:
> > > I have some more informations.
> > > I enable all debug logs in assp and see that the peer is disconnect
> the
> > > transmission.
> > > I watched 3 transfers more accurately, and no transmission is break up
> > > at the same size. And the transmission is very slow. 1MB = 1000sek.
> > >
> > > What could that be?
> > >
> > > Sep  4 21:29:14 mail assp[2628]: Info: will remove file
> > > '/usr/share/assp/notspam/ab--1358091.eml' , because mail delivery was
> > > incomplete for a good mail
> > > Sep  4 21:29:14 mail assp[2628]: Finished message - received DATA
> size:
> > > 15.12 MByte - sent DATA size: 84 Byte
> > > Sep  4 21:29:14 mail assp[2628]: Disconnected: session:7FD8EC8F0E98
> > > 209.85.220.172 - processing time 1169 seconds
> > > Sep  4 21:29:14 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-16186-00032 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: file
> > > /usr/share/assp/notspam/ab--1358091.eml was deleted - reason:
> incomplete
> > > good mail
> > >
> > >
> > > Sep  4 21:29:15 mail assp[2628]: Info: will remove file
> > > '/usr/share/assp/notspam/test--1358085.eml' , because mail delivery
> was
> > > incomplete for a good mail
> > > Sep  4 21:29:15 mail assp[2628]: Finished message - received DATA
> size:
> > > 21.99 MByte - sent DATA size: 168 Byte
> > > Sep  4 21:29:15 mail assp[2628]: Disconnected: session:EFC56A8
> > > 212.227.15.4 - processing time 2225 seconds
> > > Sep  4 21:29:15 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-15130-05665 212.227.15.4
> > > <u...@web.de> to: u...@leicht.info info: file
> > > /usr/share/assp/notspam/test--1358085.eml was deleted - reason:
> > > incomplete good mail
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sep  4 22:11:24 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:25 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:25 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:25 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:25 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:25 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:25 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:26 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:27 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 1400
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:27 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: read and processed 920
> byte
> > > of DATA
> > > Sep  4 22:11:27 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: no (more) data readable
> from
> > > 209.85.220.172 (connection closed by peer) - last command was 'DATA'
> > > Sep  4 22:11:27 mail assp[2628]: wwl8-18717-12751 209.85.220.172
> > > <u...@gmail.com> to: u...@leicht.info info: file
> > > /usr/share/assp/notspam/ab--1358118.eml was deleted - reason:
> incomplete
> > > good mail
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 03.09.2016 um 23:06 schrieb Christian Leicht:
> > >> Hello, i use the latest ASSP v2 on a new server.
> > >> All works fine but larger Emails (20MB) are extreme slow and some are
> > >> lost connection.
> > >> This addresses are whitelisted an no ClamAV is involved. TLS is
> working
> > >> on this connections. Send a 20 MB Message from web.de to my Server
> take
> > >> 20 minutes. Emails are going thru Postfix without Amavis.
> > >>
> > >> What can i do?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for help
> > >> Christian
> > >>
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