David, do you have any idea why ksh93 doesn't use POSIX order in the
example below?

Ced

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From: Dan Douglas <[email protected]>
Date: 9 January 2013 20:00
Subject: Reverse redirection / assignment order
To: [email protected]


When expanding simple commands, steps 3 and 4 are reversed unconditionally for
all command types and number of words expanded, even in POSIX mode.
http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#tag_18_09_01

The exceptions allowed by POSIX appear to only apply to ksh93. Other shells
always use the POSIX order, except Bash, which never uses the POSIX order,
though the manpage description is the same as POSIX.

    #!/usr/bin/env bash

    # 1) no command expanded, 2) special builtin, 3) regular builtin.
    tst() {
        "$sh" -c 'x=$(printf 2 >&2) ${1+"$1"} <&0$(printf 1 >&2)' _ "$@"
    } 2>&1

    for sh in {,{b,d}a,po,{,m}k,z}sh bb; do
        printf '%-4s: %s %s %s\n' "$sh" "$(tst)" "$(tst :)" "$(tst true)"
    done

Out:
sh  : 21 21 21 # bash posix mode
bash: 21 21 21 # normal mode
ksh : 21 21 12 # ksh93 is the other oddball shell
dash: 12 12 12 # ...
...            # Everything else same as dash

I don't know why this order was chosen or what the advantages to one over the
other might be.
--
Dan Douglas


-- 
Cedric Blancher <[email protected]>
Institute Pasteur

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