On 22 July 2013 16:28, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 12:10:32 +0200 Cedric Blancher wrote:
>> On 10 June 2013 03:50, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:47:08 +0200 Roland Mainz wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I knew I would get into semantic trouble here
>> >> > I'm not complaining/deriding the efficacy of iswrune()
>> >> > only that it has no bearing on any posix compliant utility
>> >
>> >> OK... here is the question which bothers me:
>> >> tr -C does require to sort characters, right ? How do we sort
>> >> characters which do not have an assigned meaning ?
>> >
>> > strcoll()
>> >
>> >> > if anyone wants to start a discussion about new utility option(s)
>> >> > that rely on iswrune() and what ast utilities should be affected, great
>> >> >
>> >> > for systems that do not supply iswrune() portability remains a big 
>> >> > issue,
>> >> > current practice notwithstanding -- it will always be an
>> >> > iffe|config game of catchup vs. the iw*() collection du jour
>> >
>> >> BTW: re |iswrune()| emulation... perl has the perl regex match
>> >> \p{Unassigned} ... which creates the same matches as this script
>> >> (assuming LC_ALL='en_US.UTF-8' and locales Unicode version matches the
>> >> perl unicode version):
>> >> -- snip --
>> >> set -o nounset
>> >
>> >> typeset -i16 i
>> >
>> >> for (( i=0 ; i < 0x10FFFF ; i++ )) ; do
>> >>       ch="${ printf "\u[${i/~(El)16#/}]" ; }"
>> >
>> >>       if [[ "$ch" !=
>> >> ~(Elr)[[:alpha:][:alnum:][:digit:][:print:][:cntrl:][:space:][:blank:][:punct:]]
>> >> ]] ; then
>> >>               printf "# match found: %q\n" "${i}"
>> >>       fi
>> >> done
>> >
>> >> print '# done.'
>> >> -- snip --
>> >
>> >> |iswrune()| or not... IMO it would be nice to have something like
>> >> \p{Unassigned} in normal egrep/xgrep regex, e.g. something like a
>> >> [:_unassigned:] character class...
>> >
>> > [:rune:] would be a fine name for that class
>
>> There's still no [:rune:] emulation in libast :(
>
> that looks simple enough
> but I'm not convinced its correct
> what about system and user defined classes
> (there are notes on the list about some for chinese characters -- I forget 
> the details)

Maybe Roland can elaborate. He's an expert for such locales.

> if those aren't handled then why provide a [:rune:] that might work maybe

Chinese and Japanese locales have extra classes defined by the locale
data, but they are *always* "extra", i.e. the characters have matches
in the basic POSIX character classes but also match extra classes like
isphonogram() or is ideogram().

Please, could we get [:rune:] and a --weed-out-non-runes option for
tr(1), please?

Ced
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Cedric Blancher <[email protected]>
Institute Pasteur
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