On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 17:54:56 +0200 Irek Szczesniak wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 17:38:19 +0200 Irek Szczesniak wrote:
>> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 17:19:29 +0200 Irek Szczesniak wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > it still has not been explained why special fs treatment like this
>> >> >> > goes into ksh and not src/lib/libast/something
>> >> >> > is this really something *only* ksh will trip over
>> >> >
>> >> >> IMO yes, because entering a NFSv4 xattr directory is unique for a
>> >> >> shell. Otherwise the only way to do it is to run /usr/bin/runat <obj>
>> >> >> <prog> which is cumbersome at best and useless if you have builtins.
>> >> >
>> >> > how is the chdir()/fchdir() done by cd(1) different from the 
>> >> > chdir()/fchdir()
>> >> > done by find(1) or tw(1) or any of the -R commands?
>> >
>> >> You can cd -@ into all filesystem objects and not only directories.
>> >> Links included. And they all have their own resource forks/XATTR.
>> >
>> > ok, but why should/shouldn't the other commands mentioned above be able to 
>> > the same?
>
>> Because it's a rare and rarely used ability and feature to deal with
>> resource forks/XATTR files? I do understand why Roland did it and
>> Cedric and my people own like it. We're both Apple shops in our labs
>> and the admins need a way to access file files in emergencies. But I'm
>> not convinced that putting resource fork/XATTR support into every
>> utility is a good idea.
>
> I have access to a stock
> Darwin * 12.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 12.4.0: Wed May  1 17:57:12 PDT 2013; 
> root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
> can you point me to anything that may have a fork/XATTR
> or provide a script that creates a { file directory symlink } each with a fork

See http://lists.research.att.com/pipermail/ast-developers/2013q3/003064.html
... on OSX there are currently some custom APIs to access resource
forks. But that's what
http://lists.research.att.com/pipermail/ast-developers/2013q3/003064.html
explains...

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Bye,
Roland

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