On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 07:29:08 +0200 Irek Szczesniak wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Roland Mainz <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Roland Mainz <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > [Removing [email protected]]
> >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Roland Mainz <[email protected]> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Roland Mainz <[email protected]> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Cedric Blancher
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>> On 11 August 2013 10:43, Tina Harriott <[email protected]> 
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]> 
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:02:39 +0200 Tina Harriott wrote:
> >>> [snip]
> >>>>>> But why does nextafter() misbehave if I want to use a datatype smaller
> >>>>>> than "long double"? Accuracy is a good thing, but in this case we
> >>>>>> iterate too fine-grained, meaning the code should iterate over the
> >>>>>> smallest possible steps of a double, but not over the smallest
> >>>>>> possible steps of a long double.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone have a good idea how to fix this in ksh?
> >>>>
> >>>> Grumpf... yes. Technically I feared that day may come when
> >>>> |nextafter()| and |nexttoward()| were added in ksh93... ;-/
> >>>>
> >>>> The issue is more or less like this: Both |nextafter(f|l|)\(\)| and
> >>>> |nexttoward(f|l|)\(\)| step over the smallest possible quantity for
> >>>> the specific { |float|, |double|, |long double| }-datatype and
> >>>> therefore (for example) using |nextafterl()| (intended for |long
> >>>> double|) for a |float| doesn't work because it does so small steps
> >>>> that they cannot be represented in a |float| ... that causes the
> >>>> endless loop in Tina's example.
> >>>>
> >>>> The fix would be to "remember" the datatype (e.g.  { |float|,
> >>>> |double|, |long double| }) for a given variable and pass that down to
> >>>> |arith_exec()| and call the specific version of |nextafter()| and
> >>>> |nexttoward()| for that datatype, for example:
> >>>> - variables declared via typeset -s -E/-X should use
> >>>> |nextafterf()|/|nexttowardf()|
> >>>> - variables declared via typeset    -E/-X should use
> >>>> |nextafter()|/|nexttoward()|
> >>>> - variables declared via typeset -l -E/-X should use
> >>>> |nextafterl()|/|nexttowardl()|
> >>>> ... if the platforms libc/libm do not have a matching
> >>>> |nextafter(f|l|)\(\)|/|nexttoward(f|l|)\(\)| variant for the input
> >>>> datatype then the "function not found"-error should be thrown.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that we do _not_ have to change the logic for all math
> >>>> functions... AFAIK |nextafter()| and |nexttoward()| are the only
> >>>> exceptions which require special handling...
> >>>>
> >>>> Glenn: What do you think ?
> >>>
> >>> Attached (as "astksh20130807_short_float_nextafter001.diff.txt") is a
> >>> _prototype_ patch which shows how it would look like:
> >>> -- snip --
> >>> $ ksh -c 'typeset -s -E x=4 ; print $(( x=nextafter(x,5) ))'
> >>> 4.0000004768371582
> >>> $ ksh -c 'typeset -E x=4 ; print $(( x=nextafter(x,5) ))'
> >>> 4.00000000000000089
> >>> $ ksh -c 'typeset -l -E x=4 ; print $(( x=nextafter(x,5) ))'
> >>> 4 # this is not exactly 4 but it is so a tiny step away from 4 that
> >>> normal %f output doesn't recognise it
> >>> -- snip --
> >>>
> >>> * ToDo:
> >>> - Add |nexttoward()| support
> >>> - Add defines for type size (|float|, |double|, |long double|)
> >>> - Add error code in case if one of the { |float|, |double|, |long
> >>> double| }-variants is missing
> >>> - Somehow make the code look better
> >>>
> >>> Comments/rants/feedback welcome...
> >>
> >> Grumpf... attached (as
> >> "astksh20130807_short_float_nextafter002.diff.txt") is a fixed
> >> patch... the previous one used |double| in case that the datatype of
> >> the arguments couldn't be obtained... the patch corrects this and adds
> >> support for |nexttoward()| ...
> >
> > More thought about this:
> > src/cmd/ksh93/data/math.tab could return all three variants (for {
> > |float|, |double|, |long double| }) and |fun| in |arith_exec()| would
> > be a pointer to an array of these three variants. That would make the
> > support for |float| and |double| generic and remove all the
> > |if()|/|switch()| mess from the "hot" codepath...

> That is IMO the only solution which covers *all* corner cases, i.e. if
> an overflow/underflow or creation of subnormal numbers in a math
> function happens. Smaller datatypes mean you'll hit the limits earlier
> than for larger datatypes and not all float/double functions behave
> like doing the same operation with a long double datatype and then
> cast the result to the requested datatype.

a related question
does posix fprintf(3) have a way to print (float) values?
I looked a few times and didn't find any

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