this analogy is probably dating me
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_spinning
(cute that the reference mentions "broken" records)
that pretty much sums up dgk and me and jkf with
{ uwin ast and 80% internal work that hasn't been divulged to the list }

we keep the most important stuff spinning and the rest goes on the todo list
e.g., when an internal customer has a uwin problem they don't want a document
patch, they just want it to work

here are ways the community can help:

* if you have successfully built opensource packages not distributed with uwin
  please mention them on the list

* if a package requires patches to get it working please report the patch
  and we can see if its a uwin deficiency that needs to be addressed --
  or maybe part of the patch could be
  "workaround for uwin not having proper header H macro M library L"

* if someone wants to reproduce the uwin build from source, maybe that person 
could
  help document the process as they trudge through it -- when it works it 
should be simple:
        install { uwin-base uwin-dev } binaries
        download and read in uwin source tgz
        cd $INSTALLROOT/source
        nmake install
  we're more than happy to address problems that people report
  *but* they have to be more than
        "the build broke here's the contents of $(package results path)"
  an example of a very useful recent report is mhlavink's analysis of
  why the ksh source build missed the -lm library

* non-msvc compilation is a long time leader on the wish list, but it always 
slips
  behind other issues -- if someone wants to persue this it would be great;
  the main point to keep in mind: we want to do it with minimal change to the
  current uwin source

* git is a current sore point again related to time -- we don't have a good 
short-term
  solution but its on the todo list ...

* "at&t should this that and the other thing" w.r.t. { uwin ast } really boils 
down to
  "dgk & gsf should ..." so posts with instructions for "at&t" are a waste of 
bandwidth
  maybe those posts could morph into an active wishlist constructed in such a 
way that
  the "uwin & ast community" can tick off items and contribute back to uwin

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