is there a groff undef macro or maybe a directive that
asserts "yes I really want to override"?

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:32:38 +0100 j. van den hoff wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:12:31 +0100, Glenn Fowler <[email protected]>  
> wrote:

> >
> > looks like a groff version/installation difference
> > could be in nroff itself or the -man macros
> >
> > works ok on redhadt linux and solaris (not groff based)
> > fails like your description on suse and ubuntu
> >
> > at issue is the ast optget --nroff .OP definition
> > maybe that conflicts with a -man directive in the installations that  
> > fail?

> I investigated a bit more in the meantime. it looks like all redefinitions  
> of macros (SH, OP, etc.) which are generated by `myscript --nroff' are  
> ignored by `[ntg]roff -man': capturing `myscript --nroff' output in a file  
> and removing all troff macro definitions in this file leads to the same  
> "erroneous" output as described previously (actually it's not only the  
> missing paragraph breaks if one looks more closely). it is then especially  
> clear that the `.OP' macros don't generate paragraph breaks since the  
> corresponding OP macro in the groff `man' package (residing in  
> `an-ext.tmac') is, in usual manpages, used in the SYNOPSIS section for  
> listing all options in a single line.

> I actually don't know, _why_ the redefinition is ignored: my understanding  
> is that the specified groff macro package is loaded first and, thus, the  
> redefinition in the file should overwrite the original definition. maybe  
> the groff maintainers should be contacted for clarification. if need be I  
> could do this (might need a bit time, though).

> >
> > On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:19:21 +0100 j. van den hoff wrote:
> >> hi,
> >
> >> I'm trying to come to terms with the details of `getopts'. I managed to
> >> get a correctly formatted manpage via
> >
> >> myscript --man
> >
> >> however, using
> >
> >> myscript --nroff 2>&1 |nroff -man
> >
> >> does not generate the same formatting. rather, line breaks (or, rather,
> >> paragraph breaks) between option descriptions are missing, i.e. the  
> >> second
> >> option description starts somewhere in the middle of a line immediately
> >> after the end of the previous option description (I'm using groff  
> >> version
> >> 1.21.).
> >
> >> I looked at the `--nroff' output generated `getopts', but do not  
> >> remember
> >> enough troff to modfiy the `.OP' macro quickly.
> >
> >> question: how can I enforce correctly formatted nroff -man output (or
> >> troff, for that matter, in order to generate pdf-versions of the  
> >> manpage)?
> >
> >> thanks,
> >
> >> joerg
> >
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