Hi all,

Grandstream phones come from China. They will directly send [or rather FOB] (at trade pricing) to you if you buy 65 or more phones in one go.

We have been using Budgetones (pre the non-see-through button versions - the ones that had blue LCDs and then the white LCDs) in a low cost call shop in Dublin city. They have lasted really well (there has been breakages but to be honest I'm very surprised how well the phones are taking the abuse they see in daily use).

Here beside me I have a few AT320s - I've purchased these to test out IAX2 over NAT (I've all but given up on a SIP/NAT/Asterisk solution as I cannot get STUN to work).

To me the "look" or keyboard feel of the AT320s doesn't seem any nicer than the Budgetones. I haven't yet purchased any of the newer Grandstream office phones but I'd like to see them.

I've heard that the SNOMs actually look nice but they are more expensive.


Derek

PS In our office we are using 7940s (which I found second hand on ebay) and I must say that the Cisco phones do look & feel much nicer than the low end phones but thats not a surprise to anyone.

Schneider, Silvio wrote:

Grandsteam have softkeys and U.S. Ringtones. The phones are cheap and they look very very cheap.
They have no style at all.
Europe phones have hardkeys and european ringtones. Take a look at
Snom, Polycom and ATCOM phones !
I bet Andreas is referering to ATCOM Cheers
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    André,

    I agree with the post saying to go for a phone specific to the
    European Market.

    GrandStream are not bad phones, but currently there is better
    options.  For example, we resell GrandStream phones in Europe
    (from Madrid), but we have more sucess selling a model we import
    directly from China (of course, with CEE Certification). We have
    even the option to change the firmware of that model with national
    languages (localized languages), and latest version of that
    firmware work great with IAX.

    In fact, we sell 5 times more this model than the grandstream one,
    and IS NOT due to the price, but due to the high relation between
    price and feautures of this phone (it has a similiar price to
    grandstream). Also, because we are importing a huge amount of
    them, we got very good prices, and we are reselling very well.

    Please, go to this link:
    http://www.tiendasip.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=85

    There you will be able to observe the product I am mentionating.

    We can either serve that product to you or Grandstream, whatever
    you prefer. Go to our shop (www.globalSIPshop.com or
    www.tiendaSIP.com) and check our products..  Those are end-user
    prices, we can have distribution prices for higger volumens.

    Kind Regards,

                                    Andres






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    Ok.

    My coments

    I can by BT 101 for 40,5£ in ik plus shipment to Portugal.
    www.bobascom
    doesn´t seam to have a god price...

    Another comment.

    I  do you think I should not buy grandstream??
    Are they bag, don´t work? Bad voice quality??

    Or just because they are very cheap...



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    André Rodrigues

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    Do yourself a favor. If you need this phones inside europa don't buy
    grandstream. But a telephone which is made for the european market.

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    Hello everybody!

    I need some information about European resellers of grandstreem ip
    phones.

    Can anyone send me some contacts information about the companies?

    I´m looking for price....


    Regards

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