Hi Mike, We would love to work with you. Discounts vary depending on the product and quantity, but we will work with you to come up with a program. We handle all the popular phones, and can make some recommendations to fit your business and your clients. Contact me off-list. -Mike
Michael Crown Managing Partner www.thevoipconnection.com 321.989.6728 ext. 611 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Michaël Gaudette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [asterisk-biz] Reselling SIP phones > > Hi, > > I am presently putting the finishing touches on a business > that will require me to resell a few SIP phones to my > customers to take advantage of my service. I can't say the > volume will be extremely high, but I need someone that sells > SIP phones and can give me some sort of a reseller's discount. > > 1) Not having any (and I do mean any) experience with > hardphones, what are the community's recommandations for a > good BUSINESS phone? (I am NOT targeting residential users at > all). Something slick, but not TOO expensive. > > 2) Is there anybody reading that would want to build a > reseller relationship with me. I am located in Montreal, > Canada. I originally wanted to simply refer my customers to > a VoIP shop to get their phone, but I realize now that in > Canada (and especially french speaking Canada) there isn't > anybody I'd date recommend (at least I haven't found any). > Everybody sells in $US or look like mom and pop shops.... > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:19 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: asterisk-biz Digest, Vol 18, Issue 94 > > > > Send asterisk-biz mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of asterisk-biz digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: URGENTLY NEEDED! 214 Dallas TX DID (trixter aka Bret > > McDanel) > > 2. RE: I need your skiils, but I can't hire you (Steve Totaro) > > 3. RE: I need your skiils, but I can't hire you (Steve Totaro) > > 4. Re: I need your skiils, but I can't hire you (Lee Howard) > > 5. [Announce] Mark Spencer interview (Ronald Lewis) > > 6. RE: I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > 7. Re: URGENTLY NEEDED! 214 Dallas TX DID (Mark) > > 8. RE: I need your skiils, but I can't hire you (Trevor G. > > Hammonds) > > 9. Re: I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > (Jean-Michel Hiver) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:16:23 -0800 > > From: trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] URGENTLY NEEDED! 214 Dallas TX DID > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 00:53 +0400, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > > Mark a icrit : > > > > > > > I urgently need one Dallas TX 214 DID, I dont want to > have to buy > > > > from the DIsappearing DID eXchange company > > > > > > What's the big deal with DIDx? A lot of people seem to have > > troubles > > > with this service, although the service in itself seems > > like a good idea... > > > > I dont know, it has worked for me without disappearing. > That is where > > the sacramento asterisk users group got their did. > > There are people that appear t ohave had some problems a long time > > ago, some have even been identified as people that never > logged into > > their accounts. The billing system appears to have had some bugs, > > however that doesnt mean that it disappears that is another > issue, one > > I might add that someone else has reported with vonage, I > personally > > have had with broadvoice, and a friend has reported with a > colo place. > > So its not totally uncommon that there are billing errors. > > > > > > -- > > Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel > > UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 > > US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 > > FreeWorldDialup: 635378 > > http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > > scrubbed... > > Name: not available > > Type: application/pgp-signature > > Size: 189 bytes > > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : > > http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-biz/attachments/200 > > 60121/de9152ac/attachment-0001.pgp > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:31:32 -0500 > > From: "Steve Totaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > I like the phone support idea but I think that Digium is on > > the right > > > path. If you don't draw the line somewhere you end up either not > > fixing > > > the fault which leads to unhappy customers and therefore a bad > > mouthing > > > experience or worst still getting dragged down in a fault > > that frankly > > > is not worth fixing for the price. > > > > > > > The problem with this is that Digium has canned the idea of > "We don't > > support this configuration". Any problem can be fixed. At > an hourly > > or fraction of hourly rate, anything is worth fixing from our > > perspective since the price adjusts with the time spent. > It is up to > > the customer if it is worth spending the money for the fix, > not us. > > The customer will know this upfront before the support even starts. > > > > > As for "branded" support; you'll have the same problem. How > > would the > > > tech answering the phone know anything about the install > > he's fixing? > > It > > > would take him quite a considerable time to get up to speed > > before he > > > could reasonably start working on the fault. > > > > With the proper systems and database sharing, this is not a problem. > > Obviously, NDA and non-competes will need to be in place > and the data > > will have to accurate but this could easily be a non-issue. > > > > > > > > If you agree on a standard set of configs that you'll support and > > offer > > > a 2 teired support system, you could fix the easy things > like messed > > up > > > passwords or mis-spelled statements and then bump the non > > conforming > > > ones back to the customer (not the user). > > > > > > You could then offer "consultant" support exclusively for > those that > > can > > > demonstrate they are purveyors of Asterisk systems. You > > shouldn't have > > > to do so much hand holding here as you'd require a > minimum level of > > > expertise. You'd be acting as more of a mentor rather > than a support > > team. > > > > I think the mailing list acts very well as a mentor since the > > consultant knows how to ask the right in posts to the user's list. > > > > > > > > A final avenue could be training. Offering various levels > > of Asterisk > > > training could be a way of ensuring that you have capable > customers > > and > > > confident end users as well as being a low level money earner. > > > > Training is another awesome idea. > > > > > > > > Mark, G7LTT/KC2ENI > > > Randolph, NJ > > > http://www.g7ltt.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 16:40:55 -0500 > > From: "Steve Totaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > > > Need great phone support for your customer? Just bundle Asterisk > > Business > > > Edition in to your solution. > > > > > > Two things happen when you do this. > > > > > > (1) You help support Asterisk and Digium > > > > > > (2) You guarantee great support for your client. > > > > > > Just my 2 pennies > > > > > > Michael White > > > .e4 > > > > True enough but how many small Asterisk interconnect businesses are > > there that purchase ABE for their customer installations? > Very few I > > bet. > > > > What happens when they need to add some addition phones to > the system? > > Will Digium help? Possibly with the configs in Asterisk > but I doubt > > they will tell you how to provision the phones (Polycom or > Cisco for > > instance). > > > > What about if you have some Sangoma boards? Doubt you will > get much > > support there even if you are using ABE. > > > > Channel banks, phones, Sangoma, GUIs, the list goes on. > > Digium support is great but limited. > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:57:11 -0800 > > From: Lee Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Michael S. White wrote: > > > > >Need great phone support for your customer? Just bundle Asterisk > > >Business Edition in to your solution. > > > > > >Two things happen when you do this. > > > > > >(1) You help support Asterisk and Digium > > > > > >(2) You guarantee great support for your client. > > > > > > > The second item there may be well and true; I can't say for > myself as > > I've never chosen to turn to Digium for support. > > > > However, I contend that, in the case of the first item, you should > > reconsider the wording there. If you bundle ABE into your solution > > you certainly help support Digium. And for many people in this > > community that, in and of itself, is "a good thing to do" > (tm). But > > as far as bundling ABE into your solution helping the Asterisk > > community itself (which I assume is what's meant by saying "help > > support Asterisk"), I'd say that this is also true, to an > extent, but > > not nearly as much as it helps support Digium. > > > > Asterisk is bigger than Digium. If you want to support the > Asterisk > > community it can be done perhaps just as effectively in > countless ways > > besides or in addition to bundling ABE. > > Yes, purchasing a Sangoma card helps the Asterisk community. > > Contributing code helps. Participating in these mailing > lists helps. > > Hiring an Asterisk consultant, even outside of Digium, > helps. Merely > > using Asterisk helps. Reporting bugs helps. In fact, I would even > > contend that the activity going on in competing or > collaborative forks > > helps. The list goes on and on. Now, some of these > "other" methods > > may not help Digium at all, but you can still help Asterisk without > > helping Digium. > > > > So, I'm okay with the idea that getting ABE helps Digium > and even the > > Asterisk community to a lesser extent. But what I disagree with is > > the concept that the only way to help the community is > through filling > > Digium's pockets. > > > > Lee. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:36:43 -0700 > > From: Ronald Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [asterisk-biz] [Announce] Mark Spencer interview > > To: [email protected], [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Greetings! > > > > On January 19, 2006, I featured VoIP and open source telephony > > pioneer, Mark Spencer, on my podcast, Technology & Coffee. > To listen > > to this interview, visit http://www.ronaldlewis.com/coffee. > > > > Also, Tom Keating, CTO and VP at TMC Labs, has blogged about it as > > well. > > > > http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/asterisk/mark-spencer- > > podcast-interview.asp > > http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/voip/gabcast-audio-blo > > gger-service.asp > > > > Regards, > > > > Ronald Lewis > > Denver, Colorado > > www.riverscapecorp.com > > www.ronaldlewis.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > scrubbed... > > URL: > > http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-biz/attachments/200 > > 60121/444145a4/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:23:36 -0800 (PST) > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Steve Totaro wrote: > > > What happens when they need to add some addition phones to > > the system? > > > Will Digium help? Possibly with the configs in Asterisk > > but I doubt > > > they will tell you how to provision the phones (Polycom or > > Cisco for > > > instance). > > > > Why? That's polycom and cisco's responsibility. Seriously. > > > > > What about if you have some Sangoma boards? Doubt you will > > get much > > > support there even if you are using ABE. > > > > That's sangoma's responsibility. And from what I hear > sangoma support > > for asterisk is excellent. > > > > > Channel banks, phones, Sangoma, GUIs, the list goes on. Digium > > > support is great but limited. > > > > And largely irrelevant in those cases? > > > > -Dan > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:19:32 -0600 > > From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] URGENTLY NEEDED! 214 Dallas TX DID > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Fundamental problem with DIDx is > > > > Sellers are independent. If seller drops out of DIDx , all > buyers who > > have purchased that seller4s DIDs will lose them. > > DIDx has been aware of that problem for at least three months they > > refuse to build in any systems that protect the buyer. > > Their solution is to port the DID, however if you have the > ability to > > port the DID, then why purchase from DIDx in the first place? Also > > international DIDs are not portable > > > > > > Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > > > > Mark a icrit : > > > > > >> I urgently need one Dallas TX 214 DID, I dont want to > have to buy > > >> from the DIsappearing DID eXchange company > > > > > > > > > What's the big deal with DIDx? A lot of people seem to have > > troubles > > > with this service, although the service in itself seems > like a good > > > idea... > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:04:57 -0800 > > From: "Trevor G. Hammonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > > To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'" > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > > > <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAAJxESAJ7GKdJgMzQhTHL/IUBAOPm9G9QwE9Ogq > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> wrote on Saturday, 21 January 2006 > > 3:24 PM: > > > > > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Steve Totaro wrote: > > >> What happens when they need to add some addition phones to the > > >> system? Will Digium help? Possibly with the configs in > > Asterisk but > > >> I doubt they will tell you how to provision the phones > (Polycom or > > >> Cisco for instance). > > > > > > Why? That's polycom and cisco's responsibility. Seriously. > > > > > >> What about if you have some Sangoma boards? Doubt you > > will get much > > >> support there even if you are using ABE. > > > > > > That's sangoma's responsibility. And from what I hear > > sangoma support > > > for asterisk is excellent. > > > > > >> Channel banks, phones, Sangoma, GUIs, the list goes on. Digium > > >> support is great but limited. > > > > > > And largely irrelevant in those cases? > > > > > > -Dan > > > > I think you miss the point. They are trying to establish a > "one stop > > shop" > > for the client to call. If the client had to call Digium, Sangoma, > > Polycom, and their channel bank manufacturer for support, why would > > they need support from a service provider? > > If they had the skill level, they probably would not NEED > a separate > > service provider. > > > > -- Trevor Hammonds > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 05:18:57 +0400 > > From: Jean-Michel Hiver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] I need your skiils, but I can't hire you > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > > > >I think you miss the point. They are trying to establish a > > "one stop shop" > > >for the client to call. If the client had to call Digium, > Sangoma, > > >Polycom, and their channel bank manufacturer for support, > why would > > >they need support from a service provider? If they had the skill > > >level, they probably would not NEED a separate service provider. > > > > > > > > Then this is what needs to be done: > > > > 1 - Make a list of skills you wish to support > > > > 2 - Make a list of contractors for each skill > > > > 3 - Define a reasonable per hour support rate > > > > 4 - Build an asterisk system which prompts for the client PIN, then > > gives the client an IVR to choose from for each skill > > > > 5 - Once the client has chosen the skill, dial all related > > contractors' > > phones simultaneously (they MUST disable voicemail) > > > > 6 - After the contractor has hanged his phone, have a > callback script > > call the client back to prompt for quality feedback from > time to time. > > You might want to record the calls as well > > > > 7 - Use Asterisk's CDRs to > > a) Bill the client > > b) Pay the contractor > > c) Pocket a profit > > > > Cheers, > > Jean-Michel. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > End of asterisk-biz Digest, Vol 18, Issue 94 > > ******************************************** > > > > > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
