Have you asked voip providers like vonage or voicepulse to quote rates for your volume?
Script Head wrote: > That's a good question. When I am talking about a Tier-1 I am assuming > that company that provides VoIP termination can accept a VoIP call and > terminate it directly to a Tier-1 TDM carrier like Level3. > > > On 2/1/06, *Rusty Dekema* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Please excuse my unfamiliarity with the industry, but what constitutes > a "Tier 1" VoIP carrier? Are we talking RBOCs/CLECs only? Would (for > example) Level3 count? > > Does the carrier have to terminate the calls via TDM directly from > the > customer-facing VoIP server? Can the carrier pass the calls over their > own IP network to a different server before putting the call on a TDM > circuit? (And etc...) > > I certainly understand the difference between a "good" and "crappy" > VoIP outfit; I am just curious as to what exactly is required for a > company to be considered a "Tier 1" VoIP carrier. > > -Rusty > > > > > > On 2/1/06, Script Head < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > I am in a process of doing exactly that. In fact, last weeks > experiences > > have driven me to talk directy to Tier-1 carriers. > > > > The sad part is, even at the point where I was pushing less than > 1/2 million > > minutes per month, many carriers couldn't handle the traffic. It > was always > > something: lack of avaiable bandwith, crashing servers or codecs, > > downtime... It seem that the majority of "carriers" aren't even > prepared to > > handle traffic like that. > > > > > > > > > > On 2/1/06, Alex Pui <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Script Head, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not a "carrier", but I think the question would be, if > you are buying > > more volume than most of the "carrier" here, why would you deal > with them? > > Just trying to insult them that they are not "quality"provider. > I think you > > should deal with tier 1 carrier by yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or do I miss anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of > > Script Head > > > Sent: February 1, 2006 10:30 AM > > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > > > Subject: [asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell > the truth > > orlive up to expectations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're in the business of providing termination services > (some at > > incredibly low prices), please read this. > > > > > > I have dealt with many so called carriers over the last couple > of months, > > almost all of them are present on this list. I am always clear > about my > > calling patterns and expected volume. Everyone wants the > minutes and always > > say "oh we can take all you can send" and always lie about or > underestimate > > your capacity. When I send 50 or more channels, you choke. Some > have choked > > at 20 channels, some even less. You might have enough channels > committed > > form your "upstream provider" but you don't have enough > bandwidth to accept > > the calls and send them to your upstream. I am almost sure that > the majority > > didn't do any scalability testing. > > > > > > The points are: > > > > > > 1. If you're a reseller of a reseller with a 10+ domestic > "carriers" > > loaded in your LCR, you are not a quality provider. > > > 2. If you do have Tier-1 upstreams, you shouldn't have a > problem revealing > > that information. If you have a problem doing that, you're using > > bottom-of-the-barrel carriers. > > > 3. If your entire infrastructure consits on a leased box on Cogent > > bandwith "burstable to 100 mbit", you're not a qualitity > provider. Nobody in > > their right mind will let you burst from 1 mbit to 100 for > $59.95 per month. > > > 4. When someone asks you for a commitment of N number of > channels, you > > better damn have them or say straight out you can't do it. > > > > > > I think it should be also a normal practice to make iptraf > avaiable to a > > potential customer so he can test the amount of bandwidth (and > burst) you > > have available. > > > > > > ScriptHead > > > _______________________________________________ > > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com > <http://Easynews.com> -- > > > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com > <http://Easynews.com> -- > > > > asterisk-biz mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > <http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com > <http://Easynews.com> -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > >asterisk-biz mailing list >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
