On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 18:56 -0500, C F wrote: > On 3/7/06, Tim Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with you completely. It sound like there are loop > > holes and many
> Wrong, these are not loop holes but what the FCC intended. The speed limit signs say maximum speed 55 around here, so I guess a loophole is to drive less than 55 mph and then pretend you are compliant with the speed limit. Personally I dont see this as a loophole. > > company will not put any outbound DID into service unless my client can > > use it in the event of an emergency. To be successful in selling > > Good for you. > > > "voip-dialtone" the client wants it to be just like their PSTN lines at > > a lower flat rate. Would you put your employees life's in jeopardy to > > save 15 bucks a month? I wouldn't. > > No, I would spend the training to tell them they have to use the > backup phone that is connected to POTS, and NO I wouldn't tell them to > get VoIP by your company. Lets say I get 15 dids from the same company, all with outbound service. Is there really a difference bewteen outbound on just one account that lets me set the callerid, or do I really need 911 for each and every number that I have? The reality is that if they are all going to the same physical location, same office suite, same everything I really only would need 1 entry in the address database and all 911 calls go off that did/outbound service pair. Further the FCC does not talk about this facet, and it is reasonable (although it may be incorrect) to assume that you can provide 1 911 service account regardless of the total number of DIDs that are issued. As such being able to get service doesnt have to be a direct 1:1 relation, and the cost can be lower. With that said, I personally tell my clients to keep a direct pstn line for both faxing and 911 purposes. I do this because right now FoIP doesnt work that well, and if its a real emergency I wouldnt want to rely on both a working system (which may or may not have a battery backup depending on how cheap the customer is), and a working network and a working internet connection, and valid routing at the time of the emergency to the SIP server, and the SIP server working, and their routing to the PSAP be valid, and ... Telco switches generally dont fail as often as the internet at large, and when you start mixing many companies in between the odds of failure go up (companies such as the backbones that may route between the ITSP and the customer). Telephone switches also generally are more immune to DoS attacks, something that cant be said of the internet. While DoS attacks can and do happen on telco gear its the exception more than the rule. Further I set up my systems with the ability for people to take phones home with them and have a virtual office at home. Dialing 911 from that setup isnt generally a good thing as the response will goto the wrong place. Now if I were selling residential service the situation may be different, however I typically stay away from that as its got a high cost associated with it. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461 DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.sacaug.org/ Sacramento Asterisk Users Group
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