i think its outside of the legal jurisdiction that was meant

meaning don't do business with people outside your county or have 0 way to get your due.

not a racial thing more like a boundary one..

hey still can happen with your neighbor's but you can sue his ass.. wich you can't when outside your country unless its over 50k then wire fraud act comes in..


Paul wrote:
100% agreed. My neighbors could do just as much harm as somebody on the
other side of the world.

Rule 1 - Read the rules carefully for paypal and credit card merchant
accounts you have.

Rule 2 - Never risk funds you need to operate.

Suppose you take a local check and use a check guarantee service. First
thing to consider is that some of those services have a maximum amount
they will guarantee. Second thing to consider is the delay involved in
finally getting the funds. So assume that they will guarantee a $10k
check which turns out to be bad. Assume that it takes at least a month
to get the $10k. What impact would it have on your business?

I welcome international clients. I will take the risks I can afford to
take. Beyond that it's usually a matter of western union or wire
transfer confirmed by my bank. The only advantage locals have is that
they can also pay with cash or gold :)

What it comes down to is that if I'm in the mood to do 20 hours work on
credit for a new customer, I won't discriminate as long as they can
communicate in english or spanish. Anybody else has to pay the translator.

Henry.L.Coleman wrote:

I appriciate that you and almost everyone in any business has had their
fare share of bad customers. But I find your premise that somehow or other
these people are more prevalent in one country than in another as
rediculious. You should know by now that these people are always around
and represent a small percentage of any population. So lets get off this
tack, 95% of people in the world are honest hard working people.


Henry
*VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355
Toronto Ontario
Canada


nice CDR records showed me a generator of sip channel numbers.. thank mofu
>from asteroid.. nice going now you got all of us being targets of DOShack,
>from your nice tool.. however, back to the facts..
5 attempts from cambodge fool that will not make us BLOCK anyone not
USA/Canada, sorry guys you proved wrong for your people. as with terrorist
attacks,we will not help anyone from these risk countries making covert
calls .

We are not Accepting any more clients not in CANADA/USA/ sorry..Especially
with the new ACT Mr president signed. anyone who even remotely could even
without knowlege help these mofo's will /can /could be emprisonned,
tortured
and put to death without any hearing/trial or defense whatsoever.

so not wanting to put ourselves into this situation we have no choice but
to
BLOCK any one not considered (by us) safe.

Data from last attempt:
519328:Nov  5 03:50:56 DEBUG[18889] chan_sip.c: build_route: Contact hop:
<
sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:47286>
519357:Nov  5 03:50:59 DEBUG[12093] pbx.c: Function result is
'"SIP/${EXTEN:5}" <7224040048>'
519358:Nov  5 03:50:59 DEBUG[12093] pbx.c: Function result is '7224040048'

CDR:

2006-11-05 03:26:13 "SIP/${EXTEN:5}" <7224040048> 7224040048
0014152855895  2006-11-05
03:26:26 "SIP/${EXTEN:5}" <7224040048> 7224040048 0014152855895
 2006-11-05 03:26:35 "SIP/${EXTEN:5}" <7224040048> 7224040048
14152875589  2006-11-05
03:26:42 "SIP/${EXTEN:5}" <7224040048> 7224040048 00014152855895
2006-11-05
03:50:39 "SIP/${EXTEN:5}" <7224040048> 7224040048 001185512576476
2006-11-05
03:50:56 "SIP/${EXTEN:5}" <7224040048> 7224040048 14152855895

notice the CLID with ${EXTEN} in it lol can't even make it work.




*inetnum*:      124.108.48.0 - 124.108.55.255
netname:      CAMINTELNET
descr:        National Telecommunication Service Provider, Phnom Penh,
Cambodia

AGAIN we apologies but will not go down from these kind of practices., PS:
if you live outside the range we propose get yourself a ITSP in your
contry
or start one.

Then again maybe that could put you as a target.

ANY attempts to defraud our company has and will continue to be CC:'ed to
FBI,  Office in the corresponding number dialed when in USA .
We CC Rcmp for Canada.

Now with the new act up , and voip hacking/defrauding being part of the
WIRE
FRAUD act.. i woudnt want to be in the place of these MOFO's in the first
place.

We will implement Other means also, but these would not be appropriate to
post in the first place.

--
Mike
Sales Manager
http://www.theclubvoip.com
Making it happen
USA 1.877.807.VOIP (8647)
CDN 1-514-312-7030
--
Mike
Sales Manager
http://www.theclubvoip.com
Making it happen
1.877.807.VOIP (8647)
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