I just assume that fax over anything but T.38 won't work. I'd rather assume
something doesn't work and use something that will vs. sell something that
may or may not work.
I don't know much about Nick because I believe he was before my time.
However, I do know that I have customers now. I do know that next week I
will be sending a server to New York to fulfill a large project I received a
signed contract for Wednesday. Yes, for years I have been working on
building my ISP on ISP-Bandwidth and ISP-Colo, but why drag some research I
did in COLLEGE over here when it brings nothing to the discussion? Do you
feel your argument isn't strong enough, so you'll attempt to shame me in
leaving?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] RE: If money isnot a considerationwho
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006, Mike Hammett wrote:
Apparently some people take things a little more personal\serious than I
do.
No, some people are just more serious than you are.
If you have that sort of volume, then you can justify layer two links
into your providers' networks.
Layer 2 links (whether cross-connects within the carrier hotel or some
sort of transport to another location) to your providers is every bit as
good as a DS3. You then peer your AS with their AS. Since your ASes
would be peers, traffic would logically flow over the cross connect.
If something happens to that link (assuming you have no other forms of
redundancy), you can resort to a public Internet path to save your butt.
I am relatively new to all of this, but I'm thinking that if you and
your provider have Level(3), they won't dump it off to PCCW just to pick
it back up again. It does not make fiscal or engineering sense.
But you have no QoS within your provider's network. You do not have
guaranteed precise timing. Your faxes sent over g.711 may or may not work.
That is not a problem for TDM.
I'm sure those that have deployed a network similar to what I described
(and am in process of building out) have enjoyed the same happiness with
their solution, however, they have a more flexible solution that has
cost them less. As the saying goes (I'm sure with some degree of
slaughter)... No one got fired for buying IBM, but many got promoted
for implementing a better solution.
Yes, the ICS that I started is a local WISP, VoIP operator, network
support, etc., etc. However, I am in process of securing racks,
bandwidth, private lines, etc. in several carrier hotels in the US and
EU (possible merger\acquisition of another provider with a presence in
the US and Asia). The clients that I have\am working with represent
over 20k lines. I have grown beyond the simple operation you take me
for.
You keep reminding everyone here of Nick Catalano. Try not to make the
same mistakes as he did - don't talk about things "in process" until it
actually happens. Otherwise, everyone will keep reminding you of your RFP
back when you were in high school for some research project.
Am I pushing a product? No, I am not ready for customers. I'm just
trying to push against the "TDM is holier than thou" mentality when not
needed. GSM? Why? It sounds horrible. G.711 or G.729. I'm waiting
for good Asterisk support of wideband codecs for higher quality yet.
TDM just works. Yes, you *can* make VoIP work almost as good as TDM -
using proper QoS, T.38 for faxing, <insert some other solution for modem
pass-through> - but why, when TDM just works?
Alex Pilosov | DSL, Colocation, Hosting Services
President | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 877-PILOSOFT x601
Pilosoft, Inc. | http://www.pilosoft.com
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