As a follow up, Voipjet has returned the money via the Paypal resolution process. No worries here. It's probably as Steve says, sloppy password use. Paypal gets high marks for flagging the transaction.
On 3/4/07, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I guess you cannot log in to see what it looks like? It would astonish me that some scammer somehow got your PayPal login information unless you use the same password with different providers and sites as you do with PayPal. I would suggest that everyone change their password to any banking institution if it is the same password you use elsewhere. Lets say for instance, and this is totally an example. An employee or ex-employee of VoipJet decided to rip a few people off. He has your PayPal email and the password you used to sign up at VoipJet, boom he sets up an account to receive money and tries all the accounts in the VoipJet database on PayPal through a proxy. I think there are probably quite a few people that use the same password everywhere. I have seen countless instances of people doing this and could be a multi-millionaire if I were a thief. Thanks, Steve Totaro ------------------------------ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tom Lynn *Sent:* Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:06 PM *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] VOIP ITSP warning Well, for what it's worth, I came home today after being in the hospital for 4 days and found Paypal had closed down my account because of a suspicious transaction for $250. It was marked Voipjet. So, it's certainly not just Kim that has had this happen. Whether or not it's really Voipjet or someone posing as Voipjet remains to be seen. I'm not posting this to corroborate Kim's experience. Rather, I want people knowing there may be an issue with scammers posing as ITSPs. Best to all Tom On 3/4/07, *Paul* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vicky wrote: > > How can someone automatically get money out of ur paypal account > without authorization ? I have been using voipjet for around 8 months > now . They do have problems with quality sometimes but even though > they dont reply to ur mail its always fixed quickly . Paypal does have a "preapproved vendor" type of thing but the account holder has to approve that. It would be used for automatically paying things like a monthly hosting fee. Voipjet does not use that method. I went most of the way through the "prepay $250" procedure on my voipjet account to be sure of that before responding to the OP. Also note that you can login to paypal and cancel a preapproved vendor arrangement anytime before they take more money. It's not like giving someone a credit card and then they "accidentally" charge you again after you cancel service. _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
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