Jai, I'm sure your company's current service is excellent. Just recommending a thorough look at all of the potential issues if you're planning to offer such an "unlimited" service. Too many companies have failed because they didn't.
Jai Rangi wrote: > I feel that most of the folks in asterisk community are very smart and they > know what they are doing. In fact some of you are exceptionally good. > Anyone who get in the business and want to offer this kind of service must > have to spend tons of hours and lots of money before they offer service > specially to the people who know all tits and bits of technology. > > To be honest I believe we have done all kind of testing we can think of. But > does it mean that we are never going to have problems? I don't think so. > There is not such thing called 100% just like there is no such thing called > unlimited. > Example yesterday I called my Wife cell phone (from Verizon to Sprint) 5 > times and she did not get a single ring. Her phone was showing 4 bars of > signal. Now these are level 1 carriers. > > The idea is how many 9s you can support. Based on reliability/availability > of service in last 6 months I would put myself on 3 9s.(99.9%). Again > Remember we offer FREE trial before you buy. > > -Jai > > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Joe Antkowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Have to agree here... There are a few key concepts that I think you're >> missing. >> They're often overlooked...but they hurt. Once you say "unlimited" >> (defined >> otherwise or not), there are many other limits of the technology and >> service >> you'll have to be fully aware of and plan for. >> >> Ex: your server was sleeping at 2500 channels -- but what happens when you >> have >> 500 channels connecting/terminating every second or two? and does that >> kind of >> usage fit into your definition of unlimited? >> >> Just be careful =) >> >> >> Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: >>> On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 11:05 -0700, Jai Rangi wrote: >>>> Trixter, >>>> Thank you for your comments, >>>> We are not dealing with PSTN on our side, we are true VoIP. >>> Then what are the DIDs? If they are PSTN callable then there is a pstn >>> link somewhere, and that link will have a finite amount of channels it >>> can support and generally it will require the telco to upgrade, and they >>> may not want to for whatever reason - or may not want to in a timely >>> fashion. This can cause them to limit you in aggregate, which >>> ultimately that limit will be passed to your customers, although no >>> single customer may notice if its sufficiently high. >>> >>> >>>> Re: Bandwidth, we have upto 100mb. Yes we WILL NOT be doing any media >>>> on our network which is real bandwidth killer. Re: cpu and and other >>>> limits we have built our system on horizontal scalable architecture, >>>> fully redundant and load balanced system, that includes firewall, SIP >>>> router, Asterisk servers, Database servers etc. >>>> >>> Ok, 100Mbps should be enough for just SIP, but then again under my >>> example the provider would have to have enough *extra* capacity for the >>> 1Gbps of media (assuming "worst case" G.711) that would be generated. >>> Keep in mind that you are adding to their current load by doing this, >>> and if they dont expand, or dont expand quickly enough, odds are they >>> are going to have to limit the channels for that reason. >>> >>> Additionally you are taking 1/3 of a media gateway P (you can only do >>> about 32k media streams with RTP per IP since it requires "every other" >>> port, with RTCP one off, port numbers are a 16 bit integer blah blah >>> blah). I do not know if they have that much spare RTP capacity either, >>> so again limits can come from that. >>> >>> >>>> During our crash test, my server was sleeping until 2500 channels. So >>>> I am not really worried upto 5000 channels and from there I can easily >>>> expand my capacity. Our target is to do the expansion as soon as we >>>> reach the 40-50% utilization of the resources. For companies who has >>>> more that 200 channels on each DID I think it will be worth for them >>>> to deal directly with Lavel3, XO, Quest or Verizon directly. >>>> >>> Except that they can get the service from you for $8-11 and it would not >>> be so cheap from those companies directly. As a result if you really do >>> offer no limits, no redefining words in your user agreements, and all >>> that, this would provide them with a much cheaper alternative. Sure it >>> gets you customers, but it can be problematic in the end. >>> >>> >>>> Yes, I agree that every unlimited has a limit in terms of capacity and >>>> resources and we are not exception. But I am positive that we can be >>>> good resource for small to mid size businesses. >>> That may be, just be warned that the limits that can be placed may not >>> come from you, but rather your carriers, or somewhere else in between >>> you and the pstn. Those are limits you really cant control easily, but >>> they still affect your ability to market as unlimited. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- >> >> AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona >> Register Now: http://www.astricon.net >> >> asterisk-biz mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona > Register Now: http://www.astricon.net > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
