I do not know whether this will go behind of Alex' comments or not. 

Yes, I am mainly dealing with hardware items, and one of my best freind is 
working on arts, so that is why , I want to help him to explore international 
market. and he is good at chinese caligrahpy.

Jason.Zhao
Botec Hardware Mfg Corp.
Economic Development Zone, Yuxin Town, Jiaxing, Zhejiang, China, 314000
Tel: 0086-573-83056310
Fax: 0086-573-83591368
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Web: www.botec-hardware.com
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Skype: jasonzhao411

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>   3. Re: snom m3 questions (Linus Surguy)
>   4. Re: XO Communications (Andrew Latham)
>   5. Re: snom m3 questions (Andrew Latham)
>   6. Re: snom m3 questions (Andrew Latham)
>   7. Re: snom m3 questions (Andrew Latham)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:08:12 -0500
> From: "Jacob Suter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] SIP (or IAX) speaking cellco?
> To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'"
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> With all the talk of the Snom M3, it got me wondering if there were any
> cellular providers offering cheap SIP handoffs to/from their network?  There
> are several regional/local 'PCS' cellular providers here doing flat rate
> local-only service for outrageously cheap prices.  I'd assume that handing
> off via SIP should make this even cheaper.
> 
> So, any cellcos out there willing to sell GSM or CDMA based PBX extensions?
> :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:20:33 -0400
> From: Alex Balashov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] metal hardware custom mfg and supply, and
> chinese caligrahpy and painting supply
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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> Jason wrote:
> 
>> I am dealing metal hardware for construction and furniture and industrial 
>> sector, I also have a good source of the Chinese works of art,  if any one 
>> is interested, I can be ready and of support.
> 
> You deal not only with metal hardware, but also smuggle Chinese art? 
> That's prolific.
> 
> -- 
> Alex Balashov
> Evariste Systems
> Web    : http://www.evaristesys.com/
> Tel    : (+1) (678) 954-0670
> Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671
> Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:36:39 +0100
> From: Linus Surguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] snom m3 questions
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
> Discussion <[email protected]>
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> Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
>> Ok thanks, it sounds like the DECT side is a bit weak when going in/out
>> of coverage areas.  That could be a problem since the point is to walk
> 
> I've tried them too. I found that the DECT range was a lot less than a 
> Siemens device located at the same area. Also occasionally (once every 
> two weeks or so) the base station reboots for no apparant reason.
> 
> Otherwise, very nice phones.
> 
> Linus
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:38:17 -0400
> From: "Andrew Latham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] XO Communications
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
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> Thank you well said....  If my contact list could talk.....  :P
> 
> I enjoy great quotes from many companies.  I was really happy to
> stumble on http://www.paetec.com/ one day.  That was an affordable T3.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Alex Balashov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It strongly depends on the company, but in *general*, inside salespeople
>> are in a better position to make you killer deals than agents.
>>
>> Steve Totaro wrote:
>>
>>> Or go through my broker and get some kickback and multiple quotes from
>>> the various vendors.  XO is one of my favorites BTW.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve Totaro
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Hickerson, Cary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I work with XO Communications. Please contact me if you need pricing for
>>>> MPLS, Collo, PRI, DIA, Ethernet, Hosted IVR and Dynamic T-1. I work in 75
>>>> Markets throughout the US.
>>>>
>>>> XO Communications
>>>> Cary Hickerson
>>>> Senior Account Executive
>>>> 1660 Lincoln Street
>>>> Suite 2600
>>>> Denver, CO 80264
>>>> Direct 303.539.1227
>>>>
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> 
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> Andrew "lathama" Latham
> Principal
> TuxTone Inc.
> http://TuxTone.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:46:42 -0400
> From: "Andrew Latham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] snom m3 questions
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <[email protected]>
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> I don't know how to respond....  I have found the Snom's _much_easier_
> to deploy than the Cisco's.  But I only covered part of the Cisco
> deployment in the VoIP Hacks book....
> 
> I am deploying Snom M3s over HTTP right now, one is next to me.  Snom
> trolls the list so I am sure someone will contact you about your bad
> phones.   You should always contact your vendor with issues.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Chris Bagnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> As others have already mentioned, the provisioning is completely different 
>> to all previous Snom models (and insists on TFTP rather than HTTP, which 
>> worked brilliantly on all other Snoms).
>>
>> We've also had a couple where the speaker has failed. The earpiece still 
>> works, but the ringer (and I presume the speakerphone) is dead. We've only 
>> supplied 2 in the last few months (and both have failed with this fault). 
>> That may mean we were just unlucky and the sample size is way too small to 
>> gather a meaningful opinion. I leave that to others who've shifted 
>> substantial quantities of them to pass judgement.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris
> 
> 
>>
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> 
> -- 
> Andrew "lathama" Latham
> Principal
> TuxTone Inc.
> http://TuxTone.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:50:15 -0400
> From: "Andrew Latham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] snom m3 questions
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <[email protected]>
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> Your base station is updating....  You can set the interval...
> 
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Linus Surguy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
>>> Ok thanks, it sounds like the DECT side is a bit weak when going in/out
>>> of coverage areas.  That could be a problem since the point is to walk
>>
>> I've tried them too. I found that the DECT range was a lot less than a
>> Siemens device located at the same area. Also occasionally (once every
>> two weeks or so) the base station reboots for no apparant reason.
>>
>> Otherwise, very nice phones.
>>
>> Linus
>>
>>
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Andrew "lathama" Latham
> Principal
> TuxTone Inc.
> http://TuxTone.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:50:32 -0400
> From: "Andrew Latham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] snom m3 questions
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Commercial and Business-Oriented
> Asterisk Discussion" <[email protected]>
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> inline
> 
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 11:20 -0400, Andrew Latham wrote:
>>> Bret
>>>
>>> I like mine.  The repeater is small and looks good.  From a geeks
>>> point of view I have the following issues but I have heard hardly any
>>> complaints from customers. I do love the speaker, very clear....
>> What about dropped calls?  What about range, is it even close to what
>> is advertised (50m indoors, 100m line of sight)?  Yes I understand about
>> multipath, interference, and other things, just trying to get a feel if
>> you can reasonably expect anything close to that or if its likely to
>> always be half or less of that range.
> 
> Range has been good but I have not sold or tested them in a setup more
> than 5 acres....  I sounds good to the edge of my installation and the
> clients like them.
> 
> 
>>
>>
>>> * Address book is not currently mass deployable...
>> This wont be an issue with the people that are looking at it but is this
>> an asterisk failing or a phone failing?  Meaning does the M3 have the
>> provisioning ability and its just not supported in asterisk, or does the
>> phone not have that ability at all?
> 
> At this time the address book is not mass deployable.  This could
> change tomorrow...
> 
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com     Bret McDanel
>> Belfast +44 28 9099 6461        US +1 516 687 5200
>> http://www.trxtel.com the phone company that pays you!
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> Andrew "lathama" Latham
> Principal
> TuxTone Inc.
> http://TuxTone.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:12:34 -0700
> From: "Rehan Allah Wala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] DIDX in Malaysia
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: suzanne Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hello All,
> 
> Specially the ones in Malaysia.
> 
> We @ Super Technologies would like to invite you to the  
> 
> Asterisk Conference in Malaysia
> 
> DIDX is a sponsor of the event, and will have a booth, and I will myself be 
> also here.
> 
> http://www.new.facebook.com/event.php?eid=25351408858
> 
> 
> Location: September 10, 2008 - September 11, 2008
> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
> Crown Princess Hotel Kuala Lumpur
> 
> Mark Spencer, the mastermind and creator of Asterisk will deliver the keynote 
> at 
> AsterConference 2008. It will be a great opportunity to meet the creator of 
> Asterisk.
> 
> Events Sites:
> www.asterconference.com  
> http://www.digium.com/en/events/
> http://didx.net/events/
> 
> I hope to see any and all there,
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rehan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> Msn/Yahoo/GoogleTalk/Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.supertec.com/ - Internet Telephony Solutions
> Http://www.DIDX.net - DID Number Market Place.
> Don't Remember Me ? Visit http://www.Rehan.com
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you 
> win." 
> By Gandhi.
> 
> "Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." 
> - Gandhi
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