No wonder, that crappy email got me 4 genuine leads.You need to find a new forum, where you can let your burst out. This is a professional forum, not a place where you publicly come and make fun of others.
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:36 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send asterisk-biz mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of asterisk-biz digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: asterisk-biz Digest, Vol 68, Issue 53 (Alex Balashov) > 2. Re: OpenSIPS Bootcamp (Daniel-Constantin Mierla) (Alex Balashov) > 3. Re: Bandwidth.com Sales Contact (Yaro Donchenko) > 4. Re: OpenSIPS Bootcamp (Daniel-Constantin Mierla) > 5. Re: Bandwidth.com Sales Contact (Fred Posner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:47:32 -0400 > From: Alex Balashov <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] asterisk-biz Digest, Vol 68, Issue 53 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 03/31/2010 11:01 AM, Nauman Ibrahim wrote: > > > I appreciate you all coming up to this forum and speaking on behalf of > > me. > > In all fairness, nobody was speaking on behalf of you. You sent out a > crappy e-mail, I made fun of you, and all this provided fodder for an > interesting tangent. > > > Actually I kept myself quiet, thinking whether it would be > > appropriate to come forward and say something to Mr.Alex the so called > > self proclaimed lingo genius > > When did I proclaim this? > > > clients who were not interested in how i was talking or > > writing but rather what I was presenting to them and in what manner. > > East meets West. :-) My turn to say, "welcome to the new global market." > > > A good example is to look at Japanese or Chinese. If you wanna do > > business with them they do not communicate in written or spoken > > English.So take the hint. > > I imagine they communicate in Japanese or Chinese. What is the hint? > > -- > Alex Balashov - Principal > Evariste Systems LLC > > Tel : +1 678-954-0670 > Direct : +1 678-954-0671 > Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:50:10 -0400 > From: Alex Balashov <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OpenSIPS Bootcamp (Daniel-Constantin > Mierla) > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Flavio, > > Both projects arise from OpenSER, and OpenSIPS does not have the right > to claim inheritance to the mantle of OpenSER categorically and > exclusively. > > Chronologically, Daniel's statement is factual. The OpenSER project > was renamed to Kamailio in August 2008 several days before the > OpenSIPS fork from it was announced. > > -- Alex > > -- > Alex Balashov - Principal > Evariste Systems LLC > > Tel : +1 678-954-0670 > Direct : +1 678-954-0671 > Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:29:58 -0400 > From: Yaro Donchenko <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Bandwidth.com Sales Contact > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Go with Broadvox > > Best Regards > Yaro Donchenko > VP of Business Development > OVE Telecom LLC > Work: +1.212.401.0707 ext 107 > Mobile: +1.917.267.9276 > www.ovetelecom.com > Yahoo: ovetelecom > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Beckman > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:06 PM > To: Asterisk-Biz List > Subject: [asterisk-biz] Bandwidth.com Sales Contact > > I had a short burst of communication with someone at bandwidth.com about 2 > weeks ago, signed an NDA, got pricing, and now haven't heard back from > them in 2 weeks after a few subsequent calls and emails. > > I also called their 800 number twice today, but got voicemail both times > when trying to get to the Sales department. > > Anyone know if there is some sort of problem there? Anyone have a better > more reliable contact there? I'd like to get an account, but it is > proving to be difficult, which worries me. > > Beckman > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > Peter Beckman Internet > Guy > [email protected] > http://www.angryox.com/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:30:35 +0200 > From: Daniel-Constantin Mierla <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OpenSIPS Bootcamp > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > <[email protected]> > Cc: Flavio Goncalves <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi Flavio, > > On 3/31/10 4:13 PM, Flavio Goncalves wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > I really didn?t want to get into the politics about OpenSIPS versus > > Kamailio(Siprouter or whatever you have named in the last two years) > > and this does not seem to be the right place, but I?m obligated to > > answer your post. In the first place, try http://www.openser.org > > <http://www.openser.org/>. > since you promote this as "former OpenSER" I expect you have more > knowledge about it and you know what you are doing training about. I saw > you are now entitled yourself as co-founder of opensips software > foundation, therefore I assume you are aware of what you got in. Or is > just mania about titles ... > > Pointing a domain is useless, openser is an application, and the > application is about source code. Regarding domains, just try > http://www.openser-project.org, http://www.openser.com and > http://www.openser.net. > > The source code was in a single place since 2005 to march 2009, > sourceforge.net openser project. Period. > > > In the second place, the ownership of sourceforge does not entitle you > > as the owner of the name or the project. > > Well, as you contributed nothing in terms of code, money and time to > bring openser at this stage, but now you use its name for own financial > reasons, it is in the open source spirit that you should give the proper > credits and try to figure out the truth and present it correctly. It is > not only me that contributed there, you will see that apart of the three > developers that created the fork, all the openser developers are still > with kamailio, they dedicated time and resources for many years and now > you simply trash them. > > > > Do you have the trademark of OpenSER? I don't think so. The > > information I have from the OpenSIPS project is below - > > http://www.opensips.org/Main/About. > > > > "*/OpenSIPS/* <http://www.opensips.org/>/ is the new name for the > > /*/OpenSER/* <http://www.openser.org/>/ project. / > > > > /Voice System/ <http://www.voice-system.ro/>/ (your former company)/ > > > > If you talk about Voice Sistem SRL, company created in 2004, then I > still own 50% of the shares (since end of 2005 when I got them) and it > is not behind opensips at all. You may have been misled somehow and you > work with Voice Systems Solutions created in 2008. None of the > developers you see at opensips can be employed by Voice Sistem SRL, that > company does not have a legal representative, so it cannot act in any > business relationship for at least past two years. If you or someone > else did it, then it is a scam and may end in other troubles. You can > address any EU country Registry of Commerce to learn more about > companies in EU space - in this way you are sure your business relations > are legal. > > > / started the *OpenSER* project back in 2005/ > > > > This is where your project has to agree. OpenSER was started by three > people, one of them being employed by Siemens in Germany at that time > (with kamailio now), another being myself (and I was not employed by > anybody when I registered openser to sourceforge.net) and the other that > did the fork. > > Check this one, they filtered better the fuzz create by some: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSER > > The Voice Systems Solutions company couldn't start openser because it > didn't exist when the project started in 2005. > > On the other hand you say opensips is continuation of openser, but on > the web there is "only one founder" of opensips project. Shouldn't be > three? > > > / and strongly supported it since then - like man power, organizing > > and sponsoring events, developing and overviewing the development and > > sustaining the projects. In 2008, due some Trademark issues over the > > name, the project had to go for the new name - and *OpenSIPS* is the > > new name of the project. //Voice System/ > > <http://www.voice-system.ro/>/ team has strongly contributed to the > > generic effort of migrating to the new name - SVN, web site, > > documentation, etc./ " > > > > If you don't agree and want to keep this discussion, I will suggest > > that, you and your old partner talk about this and decide a mutual > > agreed policy about the old name in a proper place. I write books and > > training courseware, I'm not an actual or former employee or > > co-owner of Voice-System. I did not fork, renamed or kicked out > > developers of any sourceforge project. > > > > Nobody was kicked from anywhere, from where did you get this? The only > action taken when the fork was discovered (few hours before > announcement) was to restrict admin rights (which meant only no longer > ability to add/remove developers from project) - developer rights, > tracker, user access, everything else was not touched. If others retired > by free willing over the time, it was by their wish. > > I think you in opensips have something to clarify, check this email > which was the announcement of opensips as new project: > > http://lists.openser-project.org/pipermail/users/2008-August/018793.html > > Then who was announcing openser renaming to kamailio? > > http://lists.openser-project.org/pipermail/users/2008-July/018681.html > > In which project are the two now? So don't tell me about changing names > and minds... I do not need to abuse the work of others and project names > for self promoting. Kamailio got best of open source software awards in > 2009, even without forking developers, and it is not my price as > co-founder, but the reward to entire devel and community team. > > Some people in your project cannot keep a direction from one day to > another. You can try to spread FUD as much as you want regarding the > names. It is only Kamailio since July 2008, SIP-Router.org is the > development portal as SourceForge, that provides GIT repository and > helped to merge Kamailio and SIP Express Router (SER) source trees so > they share same C code now, making straightforward usage of extensions > from both projects. > > So refrain to make statements and induce confusion about namings, again, > either you are not well informed or you do it on purpose for your own > reasons. You are smart enough to figure out in half an hour of reading... > > > > I'm only posting some information about a training we will have in > > April and this is the information I have. > > > > Yes, I am sure it is the only information you had, if so then here are > my apologizes. Hopefully next time you do it properly and do not spread > information which is not accurate. I think I helped everybody that tried > to contribute to openser project, including you, reviewing your book. > But when people try sneaky things and fairness is forgotten, it must be > reacted. > > My apologizes for people on this list for diverting from its purpose, > but in open source I think is important to keep the truth sane. I am > stopping here in this thread, no matter other replies will come, > everybody reading has enough leads and are smart to figure out more by > themselves. > > Cheers, > Daniel > > -- > Daniel-Constantin Mierla > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-biz/attachments/20100331/308270bf/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:36:23 -0400 > From: Fred Posner <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Bandwidth.com Sales Contact > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Yaro Donchenko wrote: > > > Go with Broadvox > > > > Best Regards > > Yaro Donchenko > > VP of Business Development > > OVE Telecom LLC > > Work: +1.212.401.0707 ext 107 > > Mobile: +1.917.267.9276 > > www.ovetelecom.com > > Yahoo: ovetelecom > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter > Beckman > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:06 PM > > To: Asterisk-Biz List > > Subject: [asterisk-biz] Bandwidth.com Sales Contact > > > > I had a short burst of communication with someone at bandwidth.com about > 2 > > weeks ago, signed an NDA, got pricing, and now haven't heard back from > > them in 2 weeks after a few subsequent calls and emails. > > > > I also called their 800 number twice today, but got voicemail both times > > when trying to get to the Sales department. > > > > Anyone know if there is some sort of problem there? Anyone have a better > > more reliable contact there? I'd like to get an account, but it is > > proving to be difficult, which worries me. > > > > Beckman > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Peter Beckman > > [email protected] > > http://www.angryox.com/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Similar experiences caused me to look at Flowroute. 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