you SHOULD SHOULD SHOULD know that 2billion minute is a marketing term, evean if is not real leave this list if you are not a VoIp business fan
----- Original Message ----- From: C F To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners ) All arguments aside I believe the claim that they process 2 billion minutes (http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html) is a lie. here is why: There are 525600 minutes in a year (60*24*365), which makes 2,000,000,000 minutes over 3805 years (2000000000/525600). Lets take 300,000,000 americans, every american would have to use close to 7 minutes (6.666 to be exact, 2000000000/300000000) with Ovetel for them to have that volume or 3 million would have to use 666 minutes, or 300000 would have to use 6666 minutes, or 30000 would have to use 66666 minutes or 3000 would have to use 666666 minutes (close to a million). Ovetel guys do you have 3000 customers with over 100k minutes? or 100k customers with over 3k minutes? I doubt it. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Michael Schwartzman <[email protected]> wrote: Here is my 2 cents this guys who claim to be a Vlad does not look like to be a voip consultant from Dubai, based on headers of emails here what information was obtained: Received: from TarikPC (76-253-3-118.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.253.3.118]); So look like this "Vlad" is based in Sunnyvale California. I think it has to be one of Ovetel competitors who has problems competing with them. Based on a simple google search: http://www.google.com/search?q=Tarik+Sunnyvale+California&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=OaO&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Tarik+Voip+Sunnyvale+CA&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=7b3e9e0669ddb0a1 Here what information was obtained: Tarik Lakabi Speaks:: English, Arabic, French Region:: Middle East, Asia, Africa, Egypt, Libya, South America, Europe Yahoo Messenger: tariktalk2globe Email: [email protected] Source: http://www.tmxvoip.net/contact-us.html So now we know who is Vlad :). I hope Ovetel lawyers will take some action with a good reaction. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Outback Dingo <[email protected]> wrote: Vlad I doubt you even have the right to expect such, after acting like a child in a public forum highly unprofessional even under the circumstances, also kinda slanderous if you ask me. Maybe you should prove you have a business relationship with them also as you so claim. Honestly, my preference would be that you just shut up and go away though. Its kinda sad actually to see a grown man, if you are, act with such behaviors in a public forum. Its practically embarrassing to watch you behave in such a manner. I know 5 year olds who have more character then you have displayed. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Vlad Shoz <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, Josef, FYI.: 1st - This is a BIZ list. Any business related to VOIP/Asterisk or termination can be discusses here. 2nd - If you don't want participate from this thread or don't agree - don't post comments. be quiet! 3rd - I am waiting Ovetel comment or proofs showing agreement with Swisscom and Tata as they claimed to have. Easy to solve this. Don't you think? --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Josef Grand <[email protected]> wrote: From: Josef Grand <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners ) To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 4:39 AM thank you muhamad for your reply good answer Meftah Tayeb TMVoip Inc http://www.awesomevoip.org +33178768323 ----- Original Message ----- From: Muhammad Shomail Haider To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ovetel Again - here we go !!! ( Partners ) Please leave this topic aside now.Vlad, you have informed everyone what you feel once, now it's up to them if they want to do business with ovetel or not you don't have to keep on irritating everyone bigging of every week. And please keep the professional attitude here so this list can stay clean and doesn't become garbage like most of the other lists. Regards, Shomail On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gray Routes <[email protected]> wrote: Vlad (if it is your real name) why you hate so much Yaro and Ovetel? Because he did not let you suck his dick? I think it is just a hate of competition! I understand it is hard when you see your competitors growing fast and you only sucking dicks. So my advice to you would be stop sucking dicks homo and writing this bullshit here get a life. Ovetel is very reputable company and many of us here in Asterisk-Biz doing business with Ovetel we don't care who they work with is it a TATA or SwissCom we only care that they provide us with what we need and this is most important. From my personal experience Yaro is a man of his word, he delivers always on time what he promises. Ovetel keep up a good work! On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Vlad Shoz <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Guys, Here we go again telling the truth about OVETEL.! http://www.ovetel.com/partners.html Sr. Yaro, claims to have lot of international agreements with 400 partners ; i contacted some of those "partners", like TATA and SwissCom who i have business relationship and they don't have any kind agreement with ovetel. Ovetel is not customer from them!!. Yaro, if you buy minutes from carriers who are connected with them ; don't give you rights to exposure those telcos which you don't have agreements! Don't be a fool. You´re trying to create fake ovetel 'reputation'. But i am 100% sure all guys from asterisk-biz have experience and know exacly what you are. Work from home with fake e-mails ( creating fake employees ) to say - ovetel have at least 5 people working! Come on Yaro, say the truth to everybody :) It´s better to be a small and honest voip broker. working from home is not so bad, right? Think about this.! 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