On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Matthew Jordan <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Paul Albrecht <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Joshua Colp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Paul Albrecht wrote:
> >> Really? Shouldn’t something this major affecting the entire Asterisk
> >> community get discussed on the lists? Any idea what Leif is talking
> >> about when he says the community is in transition, moving from dial
> >> plan model to external control.
> >
> > It was something Ben Klang brought up and wanted to talk about - it's
> > not something that has been decided 'nor does anyone know what the
> > future entails. Any further discussions will naturally occur on the
> > mailing list and in fact some things have explicit action items to bring
> > them up on here.
> >
> 
> The suggestion that Asterisk should consider deprecating AMI/AGI is “crazy 
> talk.” It doesn’t merit discussion and shouldn’t be on the agenda in the 
> first place. It’s completely impractical and can never happen. Moreover, Leif 
> seems to think we (the asterisk community) are in transition. What does that 
> mean? Are we abandoning the dial plan? Seriously? That’s never gonna happen 
> either. ARI isn’t easier to use than dial plan scripting. I guess one could 
> hope that "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas”, but I don’t think the 
> Asterisk community has that kind of luck.
> 
> 
> Just because someone decided to bring up a radical idea does not mean we 
> refuse to discuss it.
> 

So you agree that deprecating AMI/AGI is “crazy talk” but you’ll discuss it 
because of your open-mindedness?

> This is an open source project. Communication is done in an open, transparent 
> manner. People should feel like they can bring up interesting, radical, and 
> yes - even crazy - ideas.
> 

By the same token, when you propose ideas, you must be prepared for honest 
criticism and accept it in graciously rather than simply resorting to argument 
ad hominem. 

> If you don't like that, you don't have to participate in the discussion.
> 

You haven’t really responded to the substance of my post, that is, is asterisk 
abandoning the dial plan?

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